No class in WI as teachers protest union-busting governor

[Demosthenes11]

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...e-internet.php

[Yuri-G]

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...e-internet.php

hopefully this will turn out to be a nice example of the streisand effect

[Yuri-G]

and now they're going ahead and just implementing the law anyway. nice. I'm not going to bother posting a link since I don't think anyone here really cares anymore. my thoughts right now:

- any ill will the democrats had gained with moderates by "running away" has almost certainly become a non-issue now due to scott walker's willingness to flout the system of checks and balances and simply do what he wants regardless of the judiciary. this is my sole comfort in a maddening time where governors have become dictators and the law has become meaningless; the fact that the republicans could have won this battle the right way, but instead decided to play dirty, and that may be the key factor in their undoing. one can only hope.

- this is far from over, and it is becoming clearer and clearer just how much of a long and protracted battle we're going to have on our hands here.

- I'm not at all impressed with any of the major news networks, and have actually stopped going to cnn.com completely because of this. I've been irked with them for a while now but this is the straw that broke the camel's back. their lack of coverage on this issue has been disgusting. they were slow to cover the protests at first, and now that the story is no longer grabbing ratings or website hits, they've left it on the wayside. fuck them and fuck every other national news organization that has behaved just as shamefully. this is a historical moment and you better fucking bet your ass it would have been covered differently 40 years ago.

[Yuri-G]

ok I just googled this shit and now apparently the law is NOT in effect?

jesus fucking christ this is getting confusing. to recap so far:

- bill was passed
- injunction was issued
- injunction was ignored (or gotten around, depending on who you ask)
- injunction was reiterated
- prepations were made to inact the law regardless
- preparations were abandoned after the judge spoke out yet again

this is fascinating. and insane.

for reference, this is what I'm reading now:
http://www.ksro.com/news/article.aspx?id=3039039

can't find the link I was reading before that said the governor's office was working on putting the law into effect regardless, but that information is reiterated in the article I just posted if you want to verify that I'm not going insane here.

if this does not resonate with you as a truly historical moment in American politics, shame on you.

[falloutboy14]

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...e-internet.php

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...iref=allsearch

Democratic Party is holding a Food & Clothes drive for him tomorrow. Nice to see some humor added.

& 2nd to the lack of coverage on major networks. After the bill was passed like two weeks ago, I haven't heard anything new on the matter.

[The Blackrose]

You usually have to go to local sources to hear anything new (like Milwaukee Journal Sentinel). The big networks have downplayed this hard. What was sad was that Al Jazeera English had some good coverage for a while.

Yes, you read that right.

[Yuri-G]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...iref=allsearch

Democratic Party is holding a Food & Clothes drive for him tomorrow. Nice to see some humor added.

& 2nd to the lack of coverage on major networks. After the bill was passed like two weeks ago, I haven't heard anything new on the matter.

ahahaha that is fucking hilarious... I love it

[Olo401]

In similar news from other states...

Ohio's version of an anti-collective bargaining bill (which only reached a vote in the state senate due to the removal of two worker-friendly GOP committee members, and even then only passed by a single vote) is expected to be signed by Gov. Kasich (R-Fox News). It's not the end of the line though, and a repeal referendum is expected to be placed on the ballot quickly due to overwhelming voter disapproval.

In Maine, Gov. LePage had a mural detailing the history of labor & industry in the state removed from the walls of the Department of Labor over the weekend. While the actual mural panels have been "stored at an undisclosed location" and protests against the move grow with each passing day, the image has been returned to the forefront in at least one location: the banner of the ME Democratic Party homepage.

And yes, even here in union-friendly Rhode Island the attack is on. This has no chance of passing at all, so the move is only symbolic. On a side note, this guy offered me a job about 7 years ago and I didn't take it because he was a rude douchebag to me during my interview, so I guess things don't change much.

[Woozie]

@Ohio part.

http://files.sharenator.com/FUUUU_RE...x387-44250.jpg

[chiyio]

hopefully this will turn out to be a nice example of the streisand effect

it's on slashdot now, so seems to be spreading around nicely.

http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/03...deo-Covered-Up

[Olo401]

Polls closing in a few minutes in Wisconsin.. One of the state Supreme Court seats is on the ballot, as well as some county elections that were held to fill positions of people who moved to another job (i.e. Scott Walker's old job as a County Commissioner). Turnout is reported to be VERY heavy, as if it were a presidential election year. Some polling locations are still holding long lines because they ran out of ballots and were getting more delivered.

[Mazmaz]

Wait, what polls? What did I miss?

[Eliseos]

Wait, what polls? What did I miss?

It's a regularly scheduled spring election. Nothing to do with recalls yet.

[Olo401]

It's a regularly scheduled spring election. Nothing to do with recalls yet.

... although there were recall petitioners at the polling places, and they were allowed to stand as close as 10 feet from the building (as opposed to 100 feet for anyone associated with a campaign).

Anyways results! Here we goo..

WI Supreme Court: 99% Reporting (34 precincts remaining)
Kloppenburg (D): 733,074 50%
Prosser (R) : 732,489 50%

Margin - 585 votes. The few remaining polling places aren't expected to come in until the late morning, and they're all in areas that were trending heavily for Kloppenburg. (Link to AP)

And that "non-partisan" county commissioner seat that Walker left when he became governor? The "Dem" candidate won it by almost 2-1 margin. Happy trails, mofo.

[Eliseos]

... although there were recall petitioners at the polling places, and they were allowed to stand as close as 10 feet from the building (as opposed to 100 feet for anyone associated with a campaign).

Yeah, the state said that was legal since the candidates they were involved with weren't on the ballet in this election. Both dems and repubs were doing it.

[Acturus]

So 8 people on either side can be recalled. The Republicans are gathering signatures for the eligible Dems who fled the state, and the Dems are gathering signatures for the eligible Republicans who went along with the anti-union moves.

Is it realistic to believe that both sides will lose some/all of their recall-able people? Or will remain one-sided based on the issue?

[Olo401]

So 8 people on either side can be recalled. The Republicans are gathering signatures for the eligible Dems who fled the state, and the Dems are gathering signatures for the eligible Republicans who went along with the anti-union moves.

Is it realistic to believe that both sides will lose some/all of their recall-able people? Or will remain one-sided based on the issue?

There is far more motivation and enthusiasm for the recall on the Dem side. You also have to factor in how strong the support is for each person in a given district. This website has an excellent rundown of all the pertinent information related to the recall efforts on both sides. There isn't too much approval polling data out there though. This is the only chart I could find - it's only showing Repubs and it's a bit outdated (from mid-March when the first talk of recalls was floating around):

http://images.dailykos.com/i/user/73/WI_Recall_Poll.png

The only one so far who we know has enough signatures for a recall vote is Sen. Kapanke.

[Acturus]

Cool, thanks. I forgot about checking ballotpedia for something like this.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

So apparently the Kloss's campaign signs said something like, "A vote for me is a vote against the union bill."

Sounds like she's made her mind up and would have to recuse herself.

[archibaldcrane]

So apparently the Kloss's campaign signs said something like, "A vote for me is a vote against the union bill."

Sounds like she's made her mind up and would have to recuse herself.

These?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bMSCwWQoPW..._7841538_n.jpg

Sounds like you should find out what the sign looks like and demonstrate that it is from her campaign before spouting off.

Prosser consistently touts himself as "conservative" and has called the chief justice "A total bitch" on the record.

Anyway its generally understood that Prosser will rule in support of the bill and Kloppenberg will rule against it.

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