No class in WI as teachers protest union-busting governor

[Demosthenes11]

my favorite thing I've heard republicans says about scott walker: "He lowered unemployment by 1%"

...Obama did same thing and they all cry, even when the CBO says it was Obama's policies that did it

[archibaldcrane]

My favorite thing I've heard about Scott Walker is when my cousin called him "the one-man human centipede".

[notorious bum]

This is just a preview of what the upcoming senate/judicial elections will be like, basically.

C.R.E.A.M., especially with idiot voters who voted to keep Walker(even though they didn't vote for him, initially), due to the spamming of campaign ads that try to claim recall elections "aren't right" lol...

What's that? There was huge public support for unions and massive protesting against him and his big ideas? Nah, that was all blown out of proportion, let's take the chance of keeping him in power. Once you're elected, you're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want, cause.. well, you won and naysayers will have to wait until the next Superbowl.

The RNC just served the Dems once again with not only millions of spending, but also full-on unity of their fellow cronies. Obama might as well have slapped on a "Vote for Walker" bumpersticker on the back of his big black Lex; he made zero effort to support his own colleague throughout the entire process. I didn't expect that, honestly.

[Correction]

Attempting to disenfranchise voters with longer residency limits and voter ID laws

ID required to drive = ok!
ID required to drink = ok!
ID required for strip club = ok!
ID required for hotel room = ok!
ID required to get on plane = ok!
ID required to vote = FUCK NO! THIS UNFAIRLY ATTACKS MINORITIES! HOW WILL ILLEGALS VOTE WITH ID LAWS?! YOU CANNOT REQUIRE ID FOR VOTING. RACIST!!!!

driving = privilege
drinking = privilege
strippers = privilege
hotel rooms = privilege
riding planes = privilege
voting = inalienable right

See the difference?

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Attempting to disenfranchise voters with longer residency limits and voter ID laws, pushing to prevent hospital visitation rights for homosexual couples, working tirelessly to break the unions of teachers and nurses, giving huge tax breaks to corporate interests from outside the state despite saying that the state is "broke", peeling away environmental regulations to facilitate strip-mining interests and destroying recycling programs, and after all that, still being the worst state in the nation in job creation.

I could go on - but basically just think of whatever flashes through your brain shortly before you have an orgasm, and that's what Scott Walker is doing to the state.

Disenfranchisement: People who have been there less than a week should have a say? Wooptydo, people can get ID's to vote for free.

The Gays: Your source doesn't mention whether it was repealed.

Unions: It's his fault people don't want to be a part of them?

Environment: "Peel them away" =/= delay implementation. And, I'm pretty sure people could still recycle on their own.

Jobs: This report refutes yours. http://fox6now.com/2012/05/30/feds-c...b-growth-data/

[Ragnus]

Did... did you just post something from FOX as a "refute"?

[Demosthenes11]

scott walker creates 26k jobs in a year and its a good thing? Can a conservative explain this to me? By % of population, that is .4%

...Barack Obama has averaged .75% annual increase, almost double, yet he is a job killer and is doing a terrible job.

[archibaldcrane]

Disenfranchisement: People who have been there less than a week should have a say? Wooptydo, people can get ID's to vote for free.

For example in this recall - you've got around 100,000 university students that had moved from the dorms within 28 days of the recall election, since school just got out. They are people without the same residence, and if they moved to another district (likely - moving home or whatever) they may not be eligible to vote there with the expanded period of residency requirements.

More importantly, there is no good argument for restricting the ability to vote as such. I think there are a whopping 18 "voter fraud" incidents in Wisconsin since 2000 - to attempt to solve that problem you're going to create a situation where thousands are unable to vote in any given election because they moved recently, and thousands more at any given moment don't have the requisite identification to vote? How does that make democracy better?

The Gays: Your source doesn't mention whether it was repealed.

So if he tries to do something evil and fails, that means it's ok?

Regarding unions - if you take away the ability to collectively bargain (as he did with Act 10), unions become worthless - he neutered them, that's why people are rejecting them - not the other way around.

[Athas]

So what happened here exactly? I remember Walker's odds not looking so great way back when this whole thing started. Was momentum against him just not sustainable? Or was there a large gap in money spent?

[archibaldcrane]

So what happened here exactly? I remember Walker's odds not looking so great way back when this whole thing started. Was momentum against him just not sustainable? Or was there a large gap in money spent?

Money is never a problem for a man owned by corporate interests:
http://www.motherjones.com/files/ima...er-barrett.png

But even without that - recalls are very hard to get support for without official misconduct.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

For example in this recall - you've got around 100,000 university students that had moved from the dorms within 28 days of the recall election, since school just got out. They are people without the same residence, and if they moved to another district (likely - moving home or whatever) they may not be eligible to vote there with the expanded period of residency requirements.

More importantly, there is no good argument for restricting the ability to vote as such. I think there are a whopping 18 "voter fraud" incidents in Wisconsin since 2000 - to attempt to solve that problem you're going to create a situation where thousands are unable to vote in any given election because they moved recently, and thousands more at any given moment don't have the requisite identification to vote? How does that make democracy better?
So if he tries to do something evil and fails, that means it's ok?

Regarding unions - if you take away the ability to collectively bargain (as he did with Act 10), unions become worthless - he neutered them, that's why people are rejecting them - not the other way around.

They can still vote by mail. I don't see how that's an unreasonable additional burden.

It's means there's probably no damage of the kind your post seems to imply.

I think differently, I doubt either of us can prove who's right unless someone polls it or some state leaves CB intact while eliminating mandatory due payments.

[Demosthenes11]

this just in: fewer people will vote if they have to do it by mail

[Meresgi]

Saw this in an email today

Spoiler: show

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Money is never a problem for a man owned by corporate interests:
http://www.motherjones.com/files/ima...er-barrett.png

But even without that - recalls are very hard to get support for without official misconduct.

Apparently that graph doesn't tell the entire truth. http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/0...-in-wisconsin/

More like 2-1.

[archibaldcrane]

lol rounding down

[Talint]

I would genuinely like someone to explain to me why the lamestream media has a left bias, and why it doesn't accurately report news.

I mean, I have a response to the right wing demagoguery that goes on, but like most things, I want to make sure I'm understand the point that's being made: Namely why there's a left-wing bias in news media outlets that prevents truth or accuracy in reporting.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

I thought this might be worth Godwinn'ing the thread with, although not really a Godwin.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...l-election.php

[Tyche]

I cannot make this shit up. The comments scare the fuck out of me...and these are your peeps swamp.

7 to 1

Um, er, lefties are not good with math. For your consideration:

57 states

With the Stimulus Bill, unemployment will not exceed 8% ( but hey, I get the signs screwed up all the time)

Three letter word J O B S.

[archibaldcrane]

Roughly 65.4 million was spent on the governor recall election alone (between both candidates and their affiliates).

That is more than double the amount of pay cuts that teachers suffered in 2011.

Granted, the destruction of the union was a bigger issue than the pay cuts, but it's just insane the problems we could patch with all the money dumped into politics.

[Tyche]

Swampy, if you just came out and said "I just pretend to have these views so I can make a shit ton of money right out of lawschool by preying on stupid people in the south and Midwest", I'd have much more respect for you.