Rift: Random Complaint Thread

[arus2001]

Or they could've done something like using one of the ranged abilities lowers your armor by x%. Or give them all cast times while keeping the cooldowns short, but the kicker could be the lighter your armor the faster you cast. I dunno. Something could be done, though.

[niwaar]

Trying hard to see something wrong with that. You know, since it`s what it's supposed to be in the first place.

Warrior can be so many different things. Try harder to see the fact that warrior is the one "class" in the game that is extremely limited in the role they can play in a raid group. A ranged warrior spec wasn't without its issues, but it wasn't something that was impossible. ALL of the other 3 classes can adequately fill at least 3 roles besides Warrior. Warriors can Tank or Melee DPS. The rest have a third viable option to bring to a group and thus are at a huge disadvantage in a very flexible game design.

What should be done is either buff Warlord into a true support class, with buffing and off healing capability or ditch Warlord all together and make a Plate healing class. Something that is not a rarity in the MMO world.

Random complaint: Rift official forums hurt my brain (at least the general section).

if there is something to bitch about, ppl bitch about it. No joke, one thread of a guy bitching that the authenticator is available for Android before the Apple App store.. and he pays good money for AT&T service and doesn't like being treated like a 2nd class citizen.

I liked this thread also: A guy bitching about how the authenticator isn't available for NON-smartphones, &/or ppl w/o a data plan, and how he feels like he is SoL and is open to being hacked and such.. (because there is no other way to get an authenticator amirite?)

Honestly, my brain hurts

LOL... The reason Androids have it first is because of the Apple Store's "Apple Approved" system is flatout slow. If dude wants to complain to someone, complain to Apple not Trion. Anyway, he signed up with AT&T he's been a second class citizen on their crappy network for a long time before this "injustice".

The guy bitching about not having a smartphone or a dataplan is in the right here. As of present time, Trion has stated they do NOT want to make authenticator tokens like SE and Blizzard have done. They made some stupid statement about people having to wait for them to be mailed to them or some BS. The simple reality is that no MMO out there should ship out in a box without an authenticator token inside. There is no real reason to not put it in the product box these days. Its a requirement for account security and people should know that from the get go.

[tonyg]

Warrior can be so many different things. Try harder to see the fact that warrior is the one "class" in the game that is extremely limited in the role they can play in a raid group. A ranged warrior spec wasn't without its issues, but it wasn't something that was impossible. ALL of the other 3 classes can adequately fill at least 3 roles besides Warrior. Warriors can Tank or Melee DPS. The rest have a third viable option to bring to a group and thus are at a huge disadvantage in a very flexible game design.

What should be done is either buff Warlord into a true support class, with buffing and off healing capability or ditch Warlord all together and make a Plate healing class. Something that is not a rarity in the MMO world.

People only see the pvp aspect of it, but in PvE, in NORMAL cases, a ranged dps warrior would be equal to a ranged caster or rogue. Sure the gear may not scale properly and warriors may be overpowered, but I haven't seen one yet, and even with good purple gear the only thing that was really imbalanced was the beastmaster/warrior dps. Now we can have nerfed damage on melee or tank. I'm not crying at all, if that's what the next comeback would be, I'm simply talking from the point of view of a little more than casual player. Not hardcore by any means, but I do dungeon and PvP with organized groups a lot, so I've seen my fair share of group setups and dps. I still have yet to witness the changes, so I can't really comment thoroughly on it, but the ranged dps warrior was fun, useful, and in most cases, pretty balanced. I say in most cases because the Rift Surge cooldown was needed and they do have quite a lot of CC, but as far as damage goes I can't say there couldn't have been more rational changes than what they've announced.

[Alderaan]

What should be done is either buff Warlord into a true support class, with buffing and off healing capability or ditch Warlord all together and make a Plate healing class. Something that is not a rarity in the MMO world.

This.

[ved]

I like this game, but people being classist is making me want to quit anyone play on deepstrike defiant? I need a good guild :9

[Meko]

Trion needs to be careful with their choices. They advertised a game with limitless class possibilities and with the recent nerfs, they've limited quite a few of them. The balance between pve and pvp will forever haunt these games if they don't come up with something like EQ2 had or something that only works in pvp, like a stat conversion. The Sabs were hit hard and I think a lot of it is due to the range at which sabs have to stay to use their abilities all the while being a ranged class. I hope they don't end up putting the players in a corner when it comes to class selection. :/

[Alderaan]

I look at this update as a stepping stone to more balance honestly. Fixing a few glaring bugs that made certain souls over powered is step one. I honestly would have preferred completely different skills for pve/pvp but i understand that takes a huge amount of time and probably takes a little away from the soul trees.

[Man0warr]

Warlord is supposed to be a true support class but it's buffs just aren't powerful enough right now.

Warrior: Tank/Melee DPS/Support(Warlord)
Mage: DPS/Heal(Chloro)/Support(Archon)
Rogue: DPS/Tank(Riftstalker)/Support(Bard)
Cleric: DPS/Tank(Justicar)/Heal

Justicar is a pretty good support too, so technically clerics can do all 4 roles.

It's only been a month, people should give them a bit more time to work on balancing. Although it will never be perfect.

Riftblades weren't meant to be ranged DPS - a ranged plate class that hits for 800 with no cooldown with 1 ability that can't be mana drained or silenced was pretty overpowered.

[Katlan]

Not too thrilled about the event. Its a daily token grind that makes wow's stuff look like cheesecake. 600 for a costume? Holy shit... I know this event will be going on for 20+ days.. but yea.. that just stinks of tedious one time event grind

[Man0warr]

So don't do it. WoW's events weren't worth doing either.

[tonyg]

Not too thrilled about the event. Its a daily token grind that makes wow's stuff look like cheesecake. 600 for a costume? Holy shit... I know this event will be going on for 20+ days.. but yea.. that just stinks of tedious one time event grind

Yea I don't think I'll bother with it either, while it's fun, usually server events on most MMOs have retarded rewards like costumes and pets. The problem here is that not only are the rewards boring, but the work needed to get them is pretty huge. As for balance, I do agree that riftblade was OP in PvP (in lower brackets anyway, not sure about 50), but in PvE with comparable gear, it surely wasn't far ahead from other DPS classes. With yesterday's patch I've remade my souls, made a 34 champ 16 beast 8 riftblade (or something like that) and I still came out top DPS on most boss fights in my experts last night, with only 1 or 2 being squashed by an epic-wearing mage (I'm still in blues mostly). Can't say warriors are useless, but I'll have to test my Riftblade/Paragon build for ranged damage, see how well it fares with Path of the wind, path of the raptor and that other ranged one along with my spears.

[Man0warr]

Yeah Warriors are still doing near 1k-1.1k dps in our guild, down from 1400. Meanwhile I can rarely top 700 on any rogue spec :> Basically only two options are 37ranger/17assassin/12nightblade or heavy Nightblade/assassin.

Rogues need love bad.

[Katlan]

Yeah Warriors are still doing near 1k-1.1k dps in our guild, down from 1400. Meanwhile I can rarely top 700 on any rogue spec :> Basically only two options are 37ranger/17assassin/12nightblade or heavy Nightblade/assassin.

Rogues need love bad.

I like NB.. when you say heavy NB, are you talking taking it to the 51 point talent? I wasn't planning on taking my pure dps NB spec that deep

So don't do it. WoW's events weren't worth doing either.

I'm just doing it for the 2 100/200 rewards. the 600 reward looks tedious and its only a costume that, like all otehrs, prolly breaks on combat

[Crizto]

I like NB.. when you say heavy NB, are you talking taking it to the 51 point talent? I wasn't planning on taking my pure dps NB spec that deep

I think I read that the heavy NB build only goes to about 47 or something. I personally prefer my Ranger/NB build for PvE events and Ranger/Rift for soloing now. I haven't been able to try out the heavy NB build which apparantly is the only real option for melee DPS on Rogue, but I like the security of a range DPS lol. I always tend to win in DPS in my lovely/shitty PUG for the dungeons I've done so far lol. Like that means anything though

[Jintu]

Best NB build I've found is 44/5/17 nb/sab/sin, can pull around 750-800. http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...gMoc.V.0Vkcx0b

[Katlan]

Out of curiosity, why would you not take Dusk to Dawn (31 point NB talent) if your NB main?

[Jintu]

Out of curiosity, why would you not take Dusk to Dawn (31 point NB talent) if your NB main?

It's just not worth it, out of my parses if I use that in my rotation my dps goes down considerably vs a dusk strike/puncture/twilight/ps rotation with fiery spike uptime. It's more viable for max dps to use cp generating abilities with enchant procs/autoattack than a channeled ability in those 4 seconds.

[Katlan]

Makes sense, nice to know. I am still leveling, but I considered it a nice ranged atk

[Jintu]

Makes sense, nice to know. I am still leveling, but I considered it a nice ranged atk

If you're stuck ranged in a fight for a short period of time, Twilight Force/Fiery Spike > Flame Thrust is better imo than d2d, plus you're not rooted channeling.

[Katlan]

Thanks for the input