Rift: Random Complaint Thread

[Alderaan]

0 achievements in Whitefall and only 7/100 wins there after all these months. Such a miserable zone. I think only premades run it.

[nekura]

Now that I've found a raiding guild that works for my times...: Dear god, I would hate to see how much trash was in pre-nerf RoS.

[Crizto]

Now that I've found a raiding guild that works for my times...: Dear god, I would hate to see how much trash was in pre-nerf RoS.

Multiply the current trash by 2, and make sure to add in a drake that will fly in from left field and 1-shot your raid no matter where you are.

[Alderaan]

RoS trash was more difficult than the bosses.

[Pyree]

They hardly reduced the trash in there. My guild was only able to find like 2 groups that were taken out. And at the same time they increased the HP of the trash that was in there, so we felt it was an overall buff to the trash.

[Raen Ryong]

How is one supposed to get good enough gear to do raids in this game? Stuff never drops from t1/t2 dungeons unless you're a mage/cleric and if by some massive fluke it's a rogue drop, I get outrolled 99% of the time. My guild has a rule in place which means you're not allowed to roll on gear unless you're raid-ready, so I can't even improve my gear this way. Crafted gear is not good enough. PvP gear is not good enough (for PvE). What am I meant to do?

[Senji]

Raid rifts
P3/4 gear
Epic quest loots
Focus runes and essences
Only have 1 rouge and a war tank in T2 and hope he doesnt be a bitch.
Random a T2 dungeon everyday for the plaque bonus.
Get a new guild.

You can hit 200 easy without ever stepping foot in an expert.

[Alderaan]

Most of my expert dungeon groups consisted of 4 rogues. Gearing up from drops was impossible for me so i just saved up my tokens and got the full t2 expert dps leather set and i was set. Granted it was much easier to do this before the dungeon finder as tokens dropped like candy but still. Raid rifts also drop way better gear than experts also but it depends on your server. On Keenblade, we have like 5-10 pugs doing them every day, so there's lots of opportunities.

[Raen Ryong]

Cheers, I'll look into those. I know this is the complaint thread but since I'm making a post anyway, some basic questions:

1. Does anyone have a mathematical model worked out for this game yet? I have a rough one I've been working on but it's just that - rough. I haven't been able to find anything and I'd like it to better evaluate stats (especially AP vs Crit);
2. Does Hit in PvP work like I presume it to - that it simply works against Parry/Dodge?
3. In what order are the following checked: block/parry/dodge?
4. Does Bard Invigorated Soul count as a healing spell (as in can things like Faesources proc from it)? Does Motif of Regeneration/Coda of Restoration/Verse of Vitality?
5. Does Hit/Focus affect Bard debuff songs at all?
6. Are there any lesser essences completely suitable for Riftstalker tanking, or should I just grab usual tanking essences and ignore the Block stat on them?
7. speaking of Riftstalker tanking: RS/Bladedancer/Ranger, RS/Bard/Ranger or other? Bard offers more defensive stuff but Bladedancer offers several nice abilities for quickly getting combo points, along with +25 Hit.

[Melena]

There are a lot of essences that have dodge/parry on them, especially for purchase for doing raid rift dailys. As for order of block/parry/dodge I'm assuming first it's a dodge check, then parry, then block. But don't quote me on it. I'm sure hit affects it since your bard songs are considered melee, so no cloth wearing . As for the other things, most rogues go till they are about the 40% crit mark which is the soft cap, then switch to AP which has no cap. If your barding, you go straight ap as crit is your worst stat. Can't help you though on 1, 2, 4, and 7 as my rogue is an alt.

[Meko]

So eh, what server is busy these days? I'm thinking of playing again being that my WoW guild died.

[Crizto]

Cheers, I'll look into those. I know this is the complaint thread but since I'm making a post anyway, some basic questions:

1. Does anyone have a mathematical model worked out for this game yet? I have a rough one I've been working on but it's just that - rough. I haven't been able to find anything and I'd like it to better evaluate stats (especially AP vs Crit);
2. Does Hit in PvP work like I presume it to - that it simply works against Parry/Dodge?
3. In what order are the following checked: block/parry/dodge?
4. Does Bard Invigorated Soul count as a healing spell (as in can things like Faesources proc from it)? Does Motif of Regeneration/Coda of Restoration/Verse of Vitality?
5. Does Hit/Focus affect Bard debuff songs at all?
6. Are there any lesser essences completely suitable for Riftstalker tanking, or should I just grab usual tanking essences and ignore the Block stat on them?
7. speaking of Riftstalker tanking: RS/Bladedancer/Ranger, RS/Bard/Ranger or other? Bard offers more defensive stuff but Bladedancer offers several nice abilities for quickly getting combo points, along with +25 Hit.

1. There aren't well documented models for this game yet like there are in FFXI.

2. Hit won't do anything in PvP. Hit also does not work against Parry/Dodge in PvE content. Hit will only work against you "missing" the target. Even if you are hit capped you can still be parried or dodged.

3. Much similar to #1, no one has shown which takes priority.

4. All of those bard spells/abilities count and can proc healing/warding essences and trinkets.

5. Hit will affect Bard from what I can tell. However, never use Bard debuffs in a raid setting as other classes perform the same debuff but theirs are better.

6. There are plenty of Dodge/Dex/Endurance essences that you can grab.

7. Both options work well assuming 51 point RS. Any combination of Bard/Ranger/Bladedancer will work. Ranger/Bard offers the most HP (only needed for Tier 2 raiding right now). BD/Ranger gives the most mitigation and is generally the best combination. I use BD/Bard right now because I have a horrible tendency to over tab-target and if I had Ranger in there I would auto-attack something I didn't want to. I've successfully tanked every dungeon and Tier 1 raid content using BD/Bard.

[nekura]

Even though it's for good reason, I'm gonna have to redo all of my specs when servers come back up since every one of them had Inquisitor in it.

[Alderaan]

So a few guildies finished off the new Saga quest just as we're about to enter HK and servers go boom. We're blaming it on the new crock mount because Keenblade was the only server offline for a while. Now there's a ton locked. Blame crock mount!

[Melena]

Oye, so after doing a quick T2 (tanked in my uber threat no mitigation t2 tanking build) I really need to redo my finishing macro's since SO has a 20 second duration & cd now. Yay for actually hitting other finishers now.

Oh and also did they nerf the fuck out of DSM last night with this patch? Only issue we had was me somehow getting knocked off the ledge (twice) on the rock boss), but other then that, everything just melted, especially the elemental boss. I don't even think a fire crystal was shot at us.

[Crizto]

So a few guildies finished off the new Saga quest just as we're about to enter HK and servers go boom. We're blaming it on the new crock mount because Keenblade was the only server offline for a while. Now there's a ton locked. Blame crock mount!

Pretty emo about this Thank god I had my raid start early, did GSB in 45minutes and servers crash as we enter RoS. So much for an efficient raid night!

But I absolutely love the 30-minute trade window you have for loot. I fudged up and didn't set up Master Looter for Duke

[nekura]

After the servers came back up the guild I'm in went and did GSB too. When we pulled Johlen, most of the raid got hit by a lag spike and when we recovered we were dead and then got disconnected from the server. Johlen's droppin' bombs on that hardware, yo! Also, Lord Greenscale bugged out yay.

[Alderaan]

We've had Greenscale bug out almost ever fight for the last month. It's gotten to the point that we have to not kill the large add because we won't get bubbles to stand in. Then we get the first bubble that doesn't despawn for 25% that we can't move from or we die. Then GS would get stuck in the air and reset itself over and over.

[Melena]

He's worse since 1.4, since he randomly decides he wants to drop plants while in the air phase. Luckily our second attempt he cooperated and we killed him and got our third dagger in 4 weeks (wtb 2h sword relic, pst). Oh also since this is the complaint thread, FUCK CLERIC TANK LOOT. Greenscale, cleric tank ring and shoulders, and I think we got (no exageration) a total of about 10 cleric tank items from 5 GSB bosses + Foci + Warmaster + Plutonus. We actually now hit the point where we are sharding the cleric tank belt from the Foci since every cleric in our guild has it.

[Pyree]

I'm a cleric and I second the "fuck cleric tank loot" motion. Seriously, almost every fucking boss and no one wants that shit.