Rift: Random Complaint Thread

[Neoscrilla]

Do your guys' WAR's cock fight over relic daggers that are meant to go to Rogues? Had this come up after we cleared GSB last night, and while most of us understood that the dagger has more benefits for Rogues, a couple WAR's decided to make an issue of it. One rage logged after he was told that they were Rogue priority first. That was icing on the cake after the previous night's RoS where a fucking Cleric wanted to roll on the Staff of Inevitible or whatever its called off of Alsbeth. More INT than WIS, but this Cleric couldnt grasp the idea of priority either. Even told the dude that after Mage's were relic'd out they could roll if they wanted. Apparently that wasnt good enough. Our guild seems to like to fight just to fight, and there is a sense of "Fuck You" going on when someone gets a relic from the people who didnt. Good times. Man I miss HNM drama in XI, this shit is weak in comparison, lol.

[Crizto]

That drama happened for us over our first Alsbeth staff. We had originally given priority to mages, but a few clerics who liked to DPS went emo. We took away priority bidding after that and have actually had a lot less drama. We've had a dagger go to a Warrior and a staff go to a Cleric.

[Pyree]

Well, INT really is better than WIS for clerics, however mages still benefit more from that staff so I agree that it'd be silly for a cleric to take one over a mage.

[Melena]

This is why leaders are not allowing rolls on the legendary's. They either outright give it to someone, or 2 man roll off. I know one of our warriors was offered to roll on our first dagger and he said no due to the proc bug and that rogues should get it first.

[Alderaan]

Not really a complaint but more of a "thank fucking god and about time"

* Added the option to hide visual effects from other players' hits under Settings > Interface > Combat. This should help reduce major mob fights looking like a battle against a giant ball of glowing lights.

[Senji]

Not really a complaint but more of a "thank fucking god and about time"

Lol. With the stormcallers and who knows what else, BGs can get pretty interesting with the fog of missile explosions in the pit. Can't see whats on the other side until you walk into it, but I think I'll keep it all

[AidenCarby]

PvP warrior has been castrated, while Cabalist runs around op as fuck. Gersh is fucking Bipolar

[Alderaan]

This favor nerf is irritating me so much. 2k for a win? Really? This is with the bonus. Last week, prior to the weekend bonus, i was getting around 3800-4800 for Port wins.

[Raen Ryong]

Warrior still seems pretty decent, just not killing people in 2-3 GCDs. Honestly though, Rift is on the whole a very mage/cleric dominated game with the OCCASIONAL rogue/warrior build able to keep up. The game is extremely mage/cleric-biased.

[Melena]

Warrior still seems pretty decent, just not killing people in 2-3 GCDs. Honestly though, Rift is on the whole a very mage/cleric dominated game with the OCCASIONAL rogue/warrior build able to keep up. The game is extremely mage/cleric-biased.

I can't speak for PVP since I don't do it, but raid wise, the only time mages really beat me on DPS is aoe fights. If I get to singletarget as a 2hander, only ones who can beat me are rogues and dual wield warriors.

[Alderaan]

Path of the Hurricane still hits ridiculously hard. I get crit with it for 1800 a lot and it's aoe with a 20m range.

The only classes i won't even attempt to 1on1 in PVP are chloro/locks and doms (not counting r6 clerics). Fuck them both, seriously.

[AidenCarby]

Started pvp on my rogue, Sabo is still Jesus.

[Alderaan]

To go along with our 7 Greenscale bows, we just got our first Alsbeth bow -_-. Almost sharded it.

Still no daggers.

[Aidin]

Ahhh, got our first dagger on Friday, GS one not Alsbeth.

Up to... 10 cleric relics though.

[Crizto]

Got a third tanking cleric wand off alsbeth woo

[Raen Ryong]

2. Hit won't do anything in PvP. Hit also does not work against Parry/Dodge in PvE content. Hit will only work against you "missing" the target. Even if you are hit capped you can still be parried or dodged.

Just returning to this since I've been challenging this lately;

I tested the effect of Hit in duels under controlled conditions and it appeared to work :X fighting a Cleric (melee) with no Hit on them, Side Steps on Rogue in a Bladedancer-heavy build was giving me almost perfect evasion. We then repeated the test with the Cleric having 200+ Hit and I had dramatically lower effective evasion.

Similarly, speaking from an anecdotal point of view, when I was on Parachamp in PvP I was disturbed when my Bend Like the Reed wasn't giving me 100% melee attack evasion, despite my listed Parry value being 102.5%. I also wondered how it could possibly go above 100%. My theory therefore is that Hit directly counteracts Dodge/Parry/Block, and in doing so makes them almost worthless (except Block) in PvP given how easy it is to overpower Dodge/Parry's low %-for-point values with the very effective Hit.

I'm perfectly open to being contradicted by the way, and please feel free to do so. I want to expand my knowledge of the game. My question leading on from this is ...

... do raid enemies have Hit? This would affect how I would assess Bladedancer vs Bard in the Riftstalker tree, as Dodge has increasing returns, as well as perhaps opening new builds...

Following from my theory, I also believe it is possible to attain 100% hitrate as I can definitely reach this in PvP and PvE, going through entire raids/dungeons without missing a single hit (so it must supercede Dodge/Parry? Perhaps t2 etc mobs simply have very high Dodge/Parry and you have to use your Hit to overcome it)?

[Alderaan]

Hit definitely affects PVP but i don't believe you really need a lot to overcome dodge/parry. I believe it only counters those 2 stats though.

I notice i miss a lot more since i switched from full t1 raid set to r6 pvp set, mostly on bd's and paragons.

[Raen Ryong]

I'll do a test vs Block soon. And people who don't specialise in Dodge/Parry tend to have like 10% tops, which is like 50 Hit... dedicated builds might have 20% tops outside of cooldowns, so 100 Hit required.

[Melena]

/rage 6% and 9% wife on Murdantrix last night. Swear to god some people don't know how cleave works and that the arc on the cleave is fucking retarded. Yes, i'm looking at you retard mages that don't want to move while were doing the circle kite so you can stay in the middle -_-

[Raen Ryong]

To be fair, would you go near that thing's ass?