Announcing the Official Forum (03/04/2011)

[Greatguardian]

I highly doubt they're going to listen to half a grain of shit those guys muse about. Unfortunately, it doesn't really help NA's reputation with the developers and community team when it comes to providing meaningful feedback. I've seen maybe 1-2 threads on the entire English forum that are worth a damn, and even those get swamped with an influx of 'tards making it a chore to pick out the useful feedback.

[Fiarlia]

Heh, people are jumping on board with me saying that Starcade = Wizzbot. What fun.

[Greatguardian]

You mean me?

[Fiarlia]

ohi2u

Are you also Naturebeckles? :O

[Greatguardian]

Ha, nope. I am enjoying this though. I just don't know how you can type so much back to Starcade. I get one or two sentences into a reply and my head explodes.

[Fiarlia]

Because I'm doing it for the fun. :D

[Appie]

Considering we can't even swim in FFXI why would anyone think an underwater zone would work in any stretch of the imagination?

http://www.aleczan.com/FFXI/blogpics...0July12_0L.jpg
As underwater as it gets in FFXI.

[Colenzo]

i hope they rework that whole area of the game

[Zeno McDohl]

Updated my latest dev/mod post scraper: http://www.biyg.org/ffxi_forum/

Color coded, links work, removed the 2 day limit.

Will be sorting them by date next.

[Surealistic]

; ; im a "flamer" cause i told a guy who wanted the "challenge" of CoP missions back to slam his head into a wall

[Not Kuno]

; ; im a "flamer" cause i told a guy who wanted the "challenge" of CoP missions back to slam his head into a wall

And by challenge they mean the fact if you weren't one of the 4-5 jobs used for those missions there was no way to get sea?

[Raen Ryong]

Bit like the challenging merit parties of old.

[Aksannyi]

I don't entirely disagree that leeching kind of kills the purpose of actually playing the game, but the arguments made by Starcade are so fucking retarded they make anyone who thinks so look like a dipshit.

Personally while I found the level grind to be painful at times with most of my jobs, at least I actually earned them instead of sitting afk somewhere getting free xp. :/ Then again, I don't play anymore, and I won't deny that the Abyssea leeching is one of the reasons I've had zero desire to come back. Among a lot of other things, but definitely have no desire to play FFXIEasyMode. But see, that's where I think I made my point. Without trying to change the game for the people who are enjoying it now, I decided that its new style wasn't in keeping with how I want to play and I stuck to that, rather than rerolling and then bitching about how the game has changed. Let the people who are having fun have at it. I won't be returning. And that's okay.

Others should probably do the same if they hate what Abyssea turned the game into so much.

[isladar]

As per request (though it's not like I'm the only person on this forum with access to the POST NEW THREAD BUTTON, but boy howdy that'd be fucking sweet):

The Official Forums: BG Edition

[Charismatic]

And by challenge they mean the fact if you weren't one of the 4-5 jobs used for those missions there was no way to get sea?

what the hell is this? sorry, you kind of suck if you couldn't beat CoP missions with any sensible job combo... aside from Snoll Tzar. and yes, I'm talking about 2004/5
not saying you personally do or couldn't, but if you tried and kept losing (losing a mission once or possibly twice trying a new setup doesn't count as actually trying imo), that's just really a lack of skill on the part of one or more players involved.
I did most of CoP as BST, personally and that's never been one of the 'recommended jobs'

[Appie]

Let's see, what were the basic setups most people had to use back in 2005 for COP, going by memory here:

Promyvions: RNG, preferably 2 or 3, especially before Memory Receptacle nerfs. Boss fights prefered: SMN 1 or 2 and those rangers. WAR was pretty standard in the pt too.

Ouryu: BLM-SMN + PLD or gtfo was pretty much the standard setup

Mithra Trackers: SMN's, PLD

Snoll: any job that could rape within a minute

Alpha and Omega: 2 stunners prefered, 1 manditory. Having a PLD tank just made the bc very hard on yourself, but not impossible. NIN was win.

Tenzen: same as snoll, but alot more breathing room than snoll since you weren't capped.

All other bc's including the ones I didn't mention inbetween could be done with pretty much anything. And probably alot of the ones I mentioned could be too, but that was probably due to lack of knowledge not used as much and people just went with what worked on the bc's. Since nobody was up for "testing" with 2h's on the line, making every test in case of fail a 2hour wait. Of course you'd have your "no 2h dry runs" (we did anyway), but sometimes something still went wrong.

[Not Kuno]

As per request (though it's not like I'm the only person on this forum with access to the POST NEW THREAD BUTTON, but boy howdy that'd be fucking sweet):

The Official Forums: BG Edition

This is the best idea I never had.

[Kaylia]

And by challenge they mean the fact if you weren't one of the 4-5 jobs used for those missions there was no way to get sea?

I'm not saying to bring back CoP at this point in time, but what you said is simply not true. You could get to sea with any party that was remotely normal (1 tank, 2 melee, 3 spell caster).

Tank= pld, nin, war. You could even use bst, smn, in many fight
melee = anything that deal dmg (and they could be replaced by range, or blm)
healer = whm or rdm
spell caster = another whm, rdm, blm, brd, smn


Snow Tsar needed at least 3 classes that could deal decent damages but that's not very restrictive. Building a team that was unable to beat any fight was quite a feat. Sure, some had it easier (blm at ouryu, sam/rng at snow tsar, rng in promy) but it's by no mean a requirement.

[Spira]

i cant register somehow..?

shows me this

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[mallister]

@kaylia: it's not that you couldn't beat most of the battles with most intelligent job setups, it's that no one would go with you/make a group if you weren't using one of the 'i win! button' job setups. you wouldn't get far solo.