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    I want "I'm in trouble - Please recommend this message." on my tombstone. Or I'll haunt everyone.

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    Well you can put whatever you want on a Tombstone, you could put something like "Died in your arms tonight" "Must have been something you said"

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    Can it be a life-sized model of Solaire doing the Praise the Sun emote?

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    I'm already saving up for a 8' statue of Raoh.
    http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ramble200...8/4832527e.png

    Or just a statue of Kenshiro with "Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru" just for cliche factor 10.

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    eagerly awaiting the first 12 foot sephiroth statue complete with 20 foot Masamune

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    I don't see why cemetaries are pointless, considering the fact that we've discovered a lot about earlier cultures and the general health of people from earlier civilizations thanks to cemeteries and graveyards and the like. Granted, i doubt most people would be happy about the thought of their grand grand grand daddies and mommies being dug up centuries later for their bones to be analyzed and everything. :D
    I would think our capacity to record and store data would nullify this

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    Depends on how such tech evolves, really. Consider something like a vinyl record isn't really a thing anymore. Sure, you still have record players out there and maybe now and then they may be produced in novelty, but the data storage methods we use now may not be the same or even worse off a hundred years from now.

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    there's an episode in stargate sg-1 where the team encounters this really advanced human race; they didn't have a dark age. they were all excited about the SGC's shitty (by current standards) computers because they'd advanced so far they didn't have any records or examples of how to build normal circuitry instead of their fancy stuff. they could figure it out from the science, but they had no artifacts to study, etc.


    similar sort of thing could apply. 'course, for the forseeable future we could always just go dick around in the third world; shit's like a time machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Depends on how such tech evolves, really. Consider something like a vinyl record isn't really a thing anymore. Sure, you still have record players out there and maybe now and then they may be produced in novelty, but the data storage methods we use now may not be the same or even worse off a hundred years from now.
    I'd think such an advanced society would be capable of retroactive engineering for such a purpose. Regardless, I just mean to say that I can't imagine we would ever want/need to rely on digging people up to learn about our society.

    And more importantly, it isn't sustainable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    I don't see why cemetaries are pointless, considering the fact that we've discovered a lot about earlier cultures and the general health of people from earlier civilizations thanks to cemeteries and graveyards and the like. Granted, i doubt most people would be happy about the thought of their grand grand grand daddies and mommies being dug up centuries later for their bones to be analyzed and everything. :D
    the benefit of burial rites and graves is to help the family/friends move on. by the time you're digging them up to study their culture or whatever, the people who benefited are long gone so no1curr. that's also why cemeteries aren't really a huge waste: you can always just dig up the oldest bodies and bury some new ones if somehow you "run out of space". plus they are beautiful landmarks. it's more weird to get creeped out by the dead bodies since there's so much dead stuff underground everywhere you go anyway.

    regarding the other posts: i know it's cool to tryhard and act like death is nbd but there's a lot of psychological tension alleviated by the presence of the tombstone and burial site, even if they're only visited once every 10 years.

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    Ideally, yeah, but at the same time, I can think of old DOS games I couldn't run in Win7 due to changes in OS architecture and the like. Yes, I could find a DOS emulator, but whether or not functionality is 100% the same is an unknown. Organically, I don't think people are going to change much. Height and longevity of life seems to be the big things over the centuries, but short of us spawning more eyeballs or something manually forced through genetic manipulations, I'm not seeing much point in figuring out how our "current selves used to live" in the future by digging us up, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drex View Post
    the benefit of burial rites and graves is to help the family/friends move on. by the time you're digging them up to study their culture or whatever, the people who benefited are long gone so no1curr. that's also why cemeteries aren't really a huge waste: you can always just dig up the oldest bodies and bury some new ones if somehow you "run out of space". plus they are beautiful landmarks. it's more weird to get creeped out by the dead bodies since there's so much dead stuff underground everywhere you go anyway.

    regarding the other posts: i know it's cool to tryhard and act like death is nbd but there's a lot of psychological tension alleviated by the presence of the tombstone and burial site, even if they're only visited once every 10 years.
    the benefit of burial sites and graves is business, not helping people move on. you thinking otherwise is more or less successful marketing. people aren't going to lose it solely because they can't visit aunt evelyn's grave once a decade. this isn't tryhard, and death isn't nbd (i'd say we're all [mostly] equally unnerved by the thought).. but it is inevitable. it's more about not being so selfish as to require some plot for your calcium to buried and a random chunk of stone that costs as much as a car to commemorate your death. build a park, farm some wheat, whatever. it's all more beneficial use of the area

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora View Post
    the benefit of burial sites and graves is business, not helping people move on.
    You're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora View Post
    the benefit of burial sites and graves is business, not helping people move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Ideally, yeah, but at the same time, I can think of old DOS games I couldn't run in Win7 due to changes in OS architecture and the like. Yes, I could find a DOS emulator, but whether or not functionality is 100% the same is an unknown. Organically, I don't think people are going to change much. Height and longevity of life seems to be the big things over the centuries, but short of us spawning more eyeballs or something manually forced through genetic manipulations, I'm not seeing much point in figuring out how our "current selves used to live" in the future by digging us up, either.
    One thing we'll likely end up with in a century or so is significant genetic treatments- at which point, the "wild" human genome is going to start to be cultivated out as we learn to modify it to deal with various disorders, aging, and so on. We may be studying the dead more to understand how to put together the living.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora View Post
    the benefit of burial sites and graves is business, not helping people move on.
    Probably the dumbest thing I've read on the internet in awhile.

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    Roranora isn't wrong, though. People are just as capable of grieving and accepting the death of a loved one by spreading their cremated ashes as they are watching a $10,000 steel casket being lowered into the ground. The only reason why some people believe that isn't true is because they've been brainwashed by society into believing that there's a certain way things "should" be done. Honestly, the mere existence of "pretty" caskets is all the proof a rational person needs to realize that Roranora is correct. Burying people in steel caskets with gold trim, lace pillows, and velvet lining is beyond retarded. It's a cash grab done by funeral homes that takes advantage of grieving and distraught families.

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    Gotta get our pharoah complex on.

    I should be a dick and demand I get placed on a wooden raft and set out onto the nearby river, just to have a dude with a flaming arrow light me up. Let some fucker later find my bones downstream and freak out. And if the archer misses, he gets shot, too.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blubbartron View Post
    Roranora isn't wrong, though. People are just as capable of grieving and accepting the death of a loved one by spreading their cremated ashes as they are watching a $10,000 steel casket being lowered into the ground. The only reason why some people believe that isn't true is because they've been brainwashed by society into believing that there's a certain way things "should" be done. Honestly, the mere existence of "pretty" caskets is all the proof a rational person needs to realize that Roranora is correct. Burying people in steel caskets with gold trim, lace pillows, and velvet lining is beyond retarded. It's a cash grab done by funeral homes that takes advantage of grieving and distraught families.
    If he had just said, "funeral homes use it as a cash grab," it wouldn't have been so stupid. You can't assume every person on the planet doesn't get any benefit/comfort off of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    If he had just said, "funeral homes use it as a cash grab," it wouldn't have been so stupid. You can't assume every person on the planet doesn't get any benefit/comfort off of it.
    I think what he was more implying when he said what he did, "No one moves on at funerals", it was more "Funeral parlors/Companies have little to no interest in helping you move on, they just want your cash"... Which is how I read it, and 100% Agreed with. I could be wrong, but its how I immediately interpreted it.

    I figured you two people calling him dumb were trolling or something because I found it difficult to believe people actually think coffins and such are anything more than a large money grab.

    To individuals, Yah it helps some people move on, but to the company, you're just a bag of money in a grieving state they can abuse to get you to spend more.

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