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[Ksandra]

I don't care what other places are arguing. I'm telling you what I'm arguing.

So you are saying what she did is not ok, but what Tyra Banks did is? (It was her)

http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-09-09/...w-model-idols/

Tyra Banks Tries Whiteface To Pay Homage To Her Fellow Model Idols

Did you forget about Tyra Banks for five seconds? Because she’s got a plan to make herself talked about once more. The “America’s Next Top Model” host and smize-ing overlord created a series of photos for photographer Udo Spreitzenbarth’s exhibition, Tyra Banks Presents: 15, in which Tyra “transforms” herself into several iconic models — Kate Moss and Cindy Crawford to name a few.

Tyra being Tyra, couldn’t wait to share the photos with the world. “I’ve put my own spin on #NYFW w/a photo tribute to some of the fiercest #SuperModels ever. Unretouched. Real. Raw,” she tweeted. tyra banks tries whiteface to honor her famous fellow models

Banks, says a statement for the exhibition, aims to capture “the likeness of her colleagues to address the powerful nature of these well-known symbols, while reminding them that ‘imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.’” She also impersonated Linda Evangelista, Claudia Schiffer, Kate Upton, Grace Jones, Brooke Shields, Lauren Hutton, Twiggy, Carmen Dell-Orefice, Karlie Kloss, Jerry Hall and Iman for the series.

But is it racist? Some critics of the series claim that Tyra in whiteface is just as bad as a white model in black face. But as Callie Beusman over as Jezebel explains, “Blackface was historically used to dehumanize and belittle black people; it originated as a racist form of entertainment in ‘whites only’ establishments. Whiteface has no historical relevance.” But is it weird? Oh hell yes it’s weird.

As Yesha Callahan over at Clutch notes, “The true atrocity with these photos is not the fact that Tyra is wearing whiteface, but the fact that the photos are horrible. I mean, the Kate Moss photo looks like ‘The Grudge.’”

Honestly I think both are fine. They aren't done to mock. And especially in Perry's case, it's just fucking clothes.


If you go to a Mexican restaurant and they have a white chef, do you think that's racist?

[Callisto]

Apparently Plan B apparently doesn't work for big girls: http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2...ews/711269895/

PARIS — A French contraceptive maker said Tuesday its morning-after pill is ineffective when taken by women who weigh more than 176 pounds.

The decision by HRA Pharma follows a publication of results of a study of levonorgestrel, one of the active ingredients in its Norlevo emergency contraceptive, said Frederique Welgryn, HRA Pharma's head of women's health.

Welgryn said that while the results of the study conducted by the Edinburgh University in 2011 were "quite surprising," the last few years have seen "a lot of discussions" about contraceptives' efficacy in overweight or obese patients.

HRA Pharma Chief Executive Erin Gainer estimated that "millions" of women across Europe use emergency contraceptives identical to Norlevo. Gainer declined to give sales figures for Norlevo alone.

Anna Glasier, a lead researcher in the study, said that their research wasn't designed to look specifically at the effect of weight on emergency contraception. She said their study only included about 1,700 women.

"It is not my place to comment as to whether the company's decision to change advice is premature," she said in an email.

She also noted another previous analysis that found there was no solid evidence to show that hormonal contraceptives were less effective in overweight women, but the quality of the studies was low.

Welgryn said a dose of HRA's drug contains 1.5 mg of levonorgestrel, identical to that found in Plan B One-Step, manufactured by Teva Pharmaceuticals, use identical ingredients.

Denise Bradley, a spokeswoman for Teva Pharmaceuticals, declined to comment.

HRA began the process of consulting with French regulators about changing the pill's labeling in 2012 and it has taken until now for Europe's drug regulators to approve the change, Welgryn said.

The new warning also says that the drug's efficacy is reduced in women who weigh more than 165 pounds, and it is ineffective in women who weigh more than 176 pounds.

Dr. Diana Mansour, a spokeswoman for Britain's Faculty of Sexual and Reproductive Healthcare, said in overweight and obese women the drug probably gets absorbed into their fat more quickly and doesn't have enough time to work in their bodies.

"It has less of a chance to delay ovulation and there are lower levels (in the blood) of the drug to have an effect," she said. Mansour said there wasn't enough information to know if simply giving obese women a higher dose of the drug would solve the problem.

In the U.K., doctors haven't been given any advice to stop giving overweight or obese women Levonnelle, which contains the same active ingredient as Norlevo.

Lynn Hearton, clinical lead for the FPA sexual health charity, said any overweight or obese women concerned about emergency contraception should speak to a medical professional.

"It is particularly important we don't put some women off taking emergency contraception because they think it won't work anyway," she said.

She said women should consider using an IUD, a small plastic birth control device which can be inserted in the womb up to five days after unprotected sex.

HRA markets Norlevo in about 50 countries worldwide. It began marketing the pill in France in 1999.

It will begin printing the warning on packaging in the first half of 2014.

[Mazmaz]

I'm saying Black-face by a white is less ok than a White-face by a black. Obviously how Katy Perry dresses is less controversial in magnitude than those examples, but it's the same type of argument made. This argument is hard to swallow for the average (especially white) person to swallow, as it requires going through a few epiphanies about what you're fed day-in day-out by the media around you, and examining different trains of thought.

inb4 reverse racism

[zoobernut]

I'm saying Black-face by a white is less ok than a White-face by a black. Obviously how Katy Perry dresses is less controversial in magnitude than those examples, but it's the same type of argument made. This argument is hard to swallow for the average (especially white) person to swallow, as it requires going through a few epiphanies about what you're fed day-in day-out by the media around you, and examining different trains of thought.

inb4 reverse racism

It isn't even close to the same league as black face and white face. It isn't even the same fucking sport.

Clothing style does not make a race. Heritage and culture are tied to nationality but not race. There may be a word for what you are thinking but it isn't racist.

[Tyrath]

Oh man, this is some of that culture appropriation shit all my friends keep going on about. I don't really see anything wrong with dressing up as a fucking geisha. Now if she had taped her eyes to be like asian eyes or painted her face yellow or something they would have something to bitch about.

[Brill Weave]

I'm saying Black-face by a white is less ok than a White-face by a black. Obviously how Katy Perry dresses is less controversial in magnitude than those examples, but it's the same type of argument made. This argument is hard to swallow for the average (especially white) person to swallow, as it requires going through a few epiphanies about what you're fed day-in day-out by the media around you, and examining different trains of thought.

inb4 reverse racism

Do you get angry and think it's racist if a white waitress in an upscale Japanese restaurant wears a kimono? You're seriously sitting here arguing that someone dressing as a particular profession is racist. Is it racist to dress up as a ninja, a samurai, etc? No it's not you fucking dope, because they are jobs. Jobs are not indicative of a racial culture. They might be associated with a particular culture but that isn't what defines them. Look I know that you're functionally retarded, but this shit is just over the top.

[Blubbartron]

I'm saying Black-face by a white is less ok than a White-face by a black. Obviously how Katy Perry dresses is less controversial in magnitude than those examples, but it's the same type of argument made. This argument is hard to swallow for the average (especially white) person to swallow, as it requires going through a few epiphanies about what you're fed day-in day-out by the media around you, and examining different trains of thought.

inb4 reverse racism

You're racist. You're claiming that one race should not be allowed to do something that other races can do. If something is conceptually wrong, it's wrong regardless of who does it.

[Tyrath]

It's racist because it underlines how much privilege she has. As a white, rich lady in the developed world, she's allowed to take symbols and meanings from another culture and represent them for her own amusement (and the amusement of other privileged people). It's "emulating" the culture by about as much as dressing up as a Native-American or Black-face for Halloween does.

Serious question for you Mazmaz.

Since you're saying it's racist because of Katy Perry's white privilege. Would it still be racist in your view if the circumstances were different? I'm Indian. Let's pretend I'm a brown, large breasted pop sensation and I decided to dress up as a geisha for a song. Would it still be racist or not?

[Seraph]

Someone needs to go to durability training. Either that, or learn the difference between "laughing with" and "laughing at".

[Ksandra]

Let's pretend I'm a brown, large breasted pop sensation

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb...sbno1_1280.gif

[Tyrath]

Das racist.

[Eurell]

Is it racist to dress up as a ninja, a samurai, etc? No it's not you fucking dope, because they are jobs.

How much would I get paid as a Samurai?


Also yeah, maz is horrible

[notorious bum]

I find the dumb rich white girls dressing up in native american head dresses pretty offensive and fucking lame, but this geisha shit is petty. Never been a problem in the decades of so many white women dressing up as one during halloween parties. Geisha activism doesn't exist lol

[Brill Weave]

How much would I get paid as a Samurai?


Also yeah, maz is horrible

You would be paid with the blood of your enemies. What are you, dumb or something?

[Ksandra]

Brill racist against dumb people.

[Silenka]

You would be paid with the blood of your enemies. What are you, dumb or something?

Nah, you'd be paid in rice.

Spoiler: show

no, seriously

[Qalbert]

at least katy perry didn't try to rape a baby?

[BaneTheBrawler]

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[SamanosukeShiva]

this last couple pages is just lol

[Mazmaz]

Since some people (Brill) don't have any fucking reading comprehension, I will quote and bold.

It's racist because it underlines how much privilege she has. As a white, rich lady in the developed world, she's allowed to take symbols and meanings from another culture and represent them for her own amusement (and the amusement of other privileged people). It's "emulating" the culture by about as much as dressing up as a Native-American or Black-face for Halloween does.

Hey whiteys, wanna get a job where you'll be in uniforms of other cultures or want to go to an event centered around those cultures and wear their attire? Go for it!
Hey whiteys, wanna wear that shit for your or others' amusement? Fuck off.

It isn't even close to the same league as black face and white face. It isn't even the same fucking sport.

Clothing style does not make a race. Heritage and culture are tied to nationality but not race. There may be a word for what you are thinking but it isn't racist.

So do you also not object to whites wearing Native American costumes for Halloween? Do you think it's unreasonable to get offended at the fact that someone, whose ancestors were responsible for the genocide of your people and theft of your land, has now decided to wear something of your culture for the purpose of amusing themselves and their friends?

Let's change it up a bit. How about if a rich German entertainer decided to wear a full hasidic jew costume on stage and carry out a performance. Are you cool with that? If not, why not?

If your answer isn't consistent across those 3 examples, then something is wrong with your logic and reasoning and you need to re-examine your argument.

You're racist. You're claiming that one race should not be allowed to do something that other races can do. If something is conceptually wrong, it's wrong regardless of who does it.

Absolutely false. Your statement makes the assumption that the systems that exist in place are already such that would allow equal treatment of all. This is not even remotely the case. When the system is set up to benefit you, in order to counter that, you should not be allowed to do something that other races can do. This HAS to continue until the entire systematic way that is in place is changed.

If all were treated equally and the system was still designed to privilege one race over the others, then that race would not be equal to the rest but instead above them.

Serious question for you Mazmaz.

Since you're saying it's racist because of Katy Perry's white privilege. Would it still be racist in your view if the circumstances were different? I'm Indian. Let's pretend I'm a brown, large breasted pop sensation and I decided to dress up as a geisha for a song. Would it still be racist or not?

It would be less racist than if a white person did it, probably to the point where it is not worth mentioning, though I could be wrong about that.