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[Cream Soda]

Which is why I said AND [insert other shit here]; should I add 50 witnesses as well? I'm just saying in some cases there's 0 room for doubt. In those cases, speed up the process.

[Tyrath]

But to GET to the point of 0 doubt is what causes the process to take so damn long. You can't have zero doubt if you're speeding something up.

[Xantavia]

Which is why I said AND [insert other shit here]; should I add 50 witnesses as well? I'm just saying in some cases there's 0 room for doubt. In those cases, speed up the process.

To me and quite a few others, there was zero doubt about R. Kelly's charges mainly due to the videotape. But I think we all know how that turned out

[Cream Soda]

Beyonce performing at the Superbowl for a half time show. Millions on TV watching, however many ppl the stadium can hold there at full capacity.

Someone walks up in broad daylight and stabs here. On film, in front of all those witnesses, watched by millions.

Would it take longer than 5 seconds to have 0 doubt?

or you know in cases where they plead guilty/admit it? as well.

I'm not saying EVERY case, I'm saying even if it's a vast minority, there should be at least some where the process can be much faster than it currently is right now.

[Tyrath]

But you can't write a fucking law with a very specific situation in mind lol.

That would never happen, and even if it did I don't think stabbing one person means that you should be executed on the spot. Everyone has the chance to be proven innocent or not as guilty even if they look to be guilty right off the bat.

Maybe the person doing the stabbing is mentally ill. Maybe the person he stabbed literally just came back from killing and raping the murderer's entire family. Maybe the person that was stabbed was just about to go on stage and stab Beyonce. Ridiculous? Yes. But no more ridiculous than just assuming someone should be killed without being given a fair chance to prove their innocence.

[Cream Soda]

Why not; in that situation (which I agree would never happen), she got killed on the spot. And he gets what? Free treatment as a result?

[Kazen]

The criminal Justice system is a complete and utter joke. Ask any one who works in it at any capacity and they will all tell you the same thing.
Nurses, guards, chaplains, mechanics, any of them who have an involvement with the jail population through their job all seem to recognize it.
It is a joke and absolute waste of money to house these criminals. They don't care about being locked up, it's 3 square meals, a bed and guaranteed access to media through TV, newspaper and radio.
Free access to doctors, and no responsibilities to worry about.
They are allowed access to libraries of information, legal access, and all of it cannot be denied to these degenerates who could not, and would not follow the rules set by society that the rest of the people seem capable of doing for the most part.
Why are we wasting our time and energy giving into these individuals who will otherwise be of no absolute use in return?
Most people who go to jail will return, like a revolving door.
The measure of an advanced and civilized society cannot be determined by how we treat those who harm others for their own selfish gain.

I couldn't disagree more with what you just said here; I'm a supervisor inside of a jail but I don't work for the institution itself. I run one of the shops inside of the jail (anyone inside of MD who works for a jail can probably guess who I work for) and I see the exact opposite. I see hard working people who made mistakes in their life who show actual pride in their work. Many of whom got locked up so young they never had the opportunity to have a real job. We teach them an actual skill they can use when they get out and I can say our recidivism rate is lower than 15%. Most of the people locked up never had the opportunities a lot of the people here are judging them for. They've already been judged once when they stood trial; many of which are in for drug related crimes and harmed no one before incarceration.

When you add this to the fact that most COs in the multiple jails I've been inside of treat the inmates like they're dirt it's not exactly surprising when they completely ignore them. I've had to deal with many "correctional professionals" who try to come into my shop and disrespect my workers which I've dealt with accordingly. The point I'm getting at is that many of them act the way they do because of the people around them. You have to consider many of which have been locked up since they were children and they still carry that same mentality. They can be useful to society, but it's a bit much to expect that from them when you have no one there to give them anything productive to do.

[Tyrath]

Why not; in that situation (which I agree would never happen), she got killed on the spot. And he gets what? Free treatment as a result?

Yeah, because as you conveniently ignored, there might be more going than appears at first.

[Cream Soda]

Yeah, because as you conveniently ignored, there might be more going than appears at first.

If you do the crime, you should get punished for it, mental illness or not.

I'd be fine with them getting the help they need AND serving their punishment. In terms of capital punishment though no point wasting money to treat them when the following sentence would be death.

That's not how it works, but in my opinion, how it should work. No "not guilty by reason of mental health" "Guilty due to mental health", get treatment, then serve your sentence. It shouldn't be a get out of jail free card though

[hey]

Which is why I said AND [insert other shit here]; should I add 50 witnesses as well? I'm just saying in some cases there's 0 room for doubt. In those cases, speed up the process.

50 witnesses are wrong all the time.

[BaneTheBrawler]

there's a joke here about sleeping in the bed you make and CS being black. but that would be racist!

[Zeb]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...andwiches.html

An Iowa man pulled a knife on his brother as they fought over peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Jerome Davis, 51, of Des Moines, became enraged Friday after his brother criticized him for making and eating six sandwiches in an hour, so he pulled a knife on him. Mr Davis has a handful of drug-related criminal convictions dating back over 20 years that include multiple jail sentences, records showed. Authorities did not name Mr Davis’ brother, also in his 50s, in an arrest report obtained by the Des Moines Register which details the altercation. Mr Davis ‘made three peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and ate them in the living room,’ the report said. ‘Within the next hour, the suspect made another 3 of these peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.’ This brought ‘his total consumption of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches to six. This angered the victim,’ the report continued. Confronted with being called an over-eater, Mr Davis escalated the situation. ‘Both victim and suspect began yelling about the other being lazy and ‘eating again,’ the report said. Mr Davis then pulled out a knife, held it to his brother’s face and threatened to cut him, according to the report. Police confiscated two knives from the scene and arrested the violent man as he told them he became violent because his brother wouldn’t ‘shut the f**k up and mind his own business.’ This is not Mr Davis’ first run-in with the law. He has three drug-related convictions, as well as another for criminal trespass. He has served at least a combined 14 days in jail for the convictions. The ex-con was charged with domestic assault with a weapon and hauled back to jail pending trial.

[hey]

I like how they try to paint him as some horrible criminal. For 14 days in jail, 20 years ago?

[Nephlite]

Seems like that's the type of guy that the system actually worked. 20 years without another arrest is pretty damn good considering. The problem with our Criminal Justice system is once you go in for rehabilitation, no one wants to take a gamble on you after you get out. Work hard in prison, do your time to get out, fail on the streets because you can't get a job and go back to a life of crime. It's a never ending cycle of brutal street life. I like how some prison systems offer job placement that actually work. Or those that allow you to get education while you're in and part of your release is paying back some of the costs associated with it. I wanna say half the prisons in America don't offer such routes for inmates.

I couldn't disagree more with what you just said here; I'm a supervisor inside of a jail but I don't work for the institution itself. I run one of the shops inside of the jail (anyone inside of MD who works for a jail can probably guess who I work for) and I see the exact opposite. I see hard working people who made mistakes in their life who show actual pride in their work. Many of whom got locked up so young they never had the opportunity to have a real job. We teach them an actual skill they can use when they get out and I can say our recidivism rate is lower than 15%. Most of the people locked up never had the opportunities a lot of the people here are judging them for. They've already been judged once when they stood trial; many of which are in for drug related crimes and harmed no one before incarceration.

When you add this to the fact that most COs in the multiple jails I've been inside of treat the inmates like they're dirt it's not exactly surprising when they completely ignore them. I've had to deal with many "correctional professionals" who try to come into my shop and disrespect my workers which I've dealt with accordingly. The point I'm getting at is that many of them act the way they do because of the people around them. You have to consider many of which have been locked up since they were children and they still carry that same mentality. They can be useful to society, but it's a bit much to expect that from them when you have no one there to give them anything productive to do.

Disclaimer: I'm not a stalker, but I caught on and have an idea of where you work at now (I work for D.C. Police). My brother-in-law got arrested some years back for CPWL and PWID - Marijuana. Not the worst crime in the world but they were aggregating charges so he was facing a minimum of 10 years. The judge sent him to prison and he worked hard despite the MD jails being notoriously rough. After a year he was released on good behavior and got most of his sentence suspended. He still hasn't been able to find a job though, despite most of the charges being dropped/reduced. He was still convicted of a Crime of Violence, though none of the charges stemmed from an in-progress crime and he had a clean record, and most institutions won't hire you if you have that type of charge. Treated like shit in jail and then treated like shit on the outside, all he does now is drink and go to the gym. I hang out with him sometimes and tried to get him a job but it's rough out there for prior felons.

[archibaldcrane]

I mean, can't you just lie on your application about being a felon and hope they don't check? Or is that illegal?

[Nephlite]

Depends on the company. Technology nowadays, you can just Google someone and get a criminal history check. It's not illegal for most companies to lie about it but I'm sure an employer will frown on it. Any government position though you could possibly face charges.

[Ksandra]

not enough attention is being given to just how serious peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are.

[Brill Weave]

This type of shit just bothers me.

http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-girl-3-...230231792.html

A 3-year-old Hawaii girl who suffered massive brain injuries last month after a dental procedure died late on Friday, said an attorney for the child's family.

Earlier this week, the family of Finley Boyle, 3, filed a lawsuit against dentist Lilly Geyer and Island Dentistry for Children in Honolulu, alleging that the child was given incorrect dosages of sedatives and that the hospital staff was not properly trained for emergencies.

On December 3, Ashley Boyle took her young daughter to Island Dentistry for extensive dental work, which the family states in court documents was recommended by Dr. Geyer.

The planned procedures included four root canals and multiple cavity fillings, according to the documents.

The Boyle family's attorney L. Richard Fried Jr. said on Saturday the child was given "grossly excessive" amounts of sedatives, went into cardiac arrest and later suffered brain damage.

The family charges that the staff was improperly trained for emergencies and failed to check the patient's vital signs for 26 minutes.

"It ended up being a massive overdose," said Fried.

Island Dentistry for Children has closed permanently, according to a statement on the firm's website, which does not provide any further details or explanation.

Neither Dr. Geyer nor Island Dentistry immediately responded to requests for comment.

Finley's death follows a case in California that gained nationwide attention last month when 13-year-old Jahi McMath was declared brain dead after a tonsil surgery gone wrong at an Oakland children's hospital.

The McMath family and the hospital on Friday agreed on moving Jahi to a new facility without removing the ventilator keeping her heart and lungs working.

What the fuck kind of parent are you that you let your child's teeth deteriorate to the point they need 4 root canals and multiple cavity fillings at 3 fucking years old.

[Kerberoz]

...why would you even need fillings for baby teeth at all? I'm not a dentist, but can't you just yank them out?

Sounds more like the dentist was just selling unnecessary procedures.

[Brill Weave]

Fucking whooshed myself on that one. /bow head in shame