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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantrag View Post
    Well, Mako wouldn't even be Zuko's son anyways. I would assume that Zuko would have taught his son/daughter better than what he was taught and the way he was brought up.
    You would assume that's the case, but going from Sozin to Ozai... and yeah. Then to Zuko, who was fairly innocent in it all for a bit until half his face got burned and he learned the word "Avatar"

    @Corrderio: Zuko* But yeah. I don't really see Mako as a Zuko/Mai offspring at all. Maybe I'm wrong, but Bolin's his brother.. and is an earthbender, so *shrug*

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    Fixed.

    Also, maybe it's because I haven't seen the series in awhile. But did the characters from the last airbender get that fatigued that easily from bending? Seems odd that for a game where matches last only 3 min. the competitors of pro bending sure got exhausted so fast they couldn't doge an incoming attack.

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    Well, it's like any sport that involves constant moving and intense fighting.. you're bound to get fatigued/tired at some point just due to the high tension of the situation.

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    They don't make 'em like they used to. Loved the second episode. Still waiting on Korra to have her Aang visions like he did with Roku. Eager to see how old Aang looks. (Yeah, all airbenders look alike, etc. But they'll probably make Aang stand out hopefully!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    You would assume that's the case, but going from Sozin to Ozai... and yeah. Then to Zuko, who was fairly innocent in it all for a bit until half his face got burned and he learned the word "Avatar"

    @Corrderio: Zuko* But yeah. I don't really see Mako as a Zuko/Mai offspring at all. Maybe I'm wrong, but Bolin's his brother.. and is an earthbender, so *shrug*
    It's because he cannot be Zuko/Mai off spring. He would be Zuko/Mai offspring offspring.

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    Maybe it's adopted brother!!!

    And can anyone clarify for me, please. Has there ever been anything said that bending is genetic? Or how would these two brothers have different bending powers, is what I'm trying to get at. Different bending parents?

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    Oh I see him as Zuko's progeny. His name is Mako, which is undoubtedly a shout-out to the deceased Uncle Iroh's VA. I doubt he'd be named Mako and have nothing to do with Zuko (although I guess it's entirely possible). I think so because Iroh wanted Zuko to take on the proper legacy of firebending, so Zuko's son or grandson or w/e being named Mako would be very poetic.
    Not to mention he's a talented firebender, looks a lot like Zuko, and already has that broody thing going on. (LONG LOOK OUT THE WINDOW) How does no one else see this? Maybe they don't want Zuko no. 2 from this series, but it's probably gonna happen, since it worked so well last time.

    edit: As for pro-bending, I'm a little confused myself. The teams seem to consist of one each of water, fire and earth benders. Firebenders can make their own fire fine, but earth and waterbenders need to use resources available to them. There is a ton of water underneath the arena but is that where they're pulling it from? I assume it would take a lot of skill and work to pull it from that far down and use it as a weapon. Then earthbending, how do they earthbend and not destroy the arena they're standing on? Every time someone earthbended in the previous series, it seemed like it displaced the earth they were using from one place to another, which makes sense. Where's the earth coming from in this case? Unless I totally missed something. I don't know how a firebender runs out of juice, but I can see the other two having problems.

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    I think it's genetic, yeah. Maybe the parents were a firebender and an earthbender. Like with Aang and Katara's kids.. only Tenzin was an airbender, leading me to think the other two were either waterbenders or non-benders. That's why I'm thinking that one of the parents have to be of bending nature.. and a firebender/earthbender can't have kids and them be airbenders or something.

    That's probably why Tenzin has three airbending children since he married a non-bender. All the shit is confusing as hell, but that makes most sense to me.

    @Silenka: You can easily have a Zuko-like character in a show without actually making him Zuko's descendant. Yeah, the broodiness and all was there, but he also made a point to apologize for being stupid. Zuko didn't do that until what.. the last half of S3? Lol.

    But yeah, there's that chance that Mako is Zuko's grandson or something...which would be weird if he got together with Korra, the Avatar... oh god the bad fanfiction LOL. Guess that'd mean that one of Zuko and Mai's kids would have married an Earthbender or something.

    Also another edit, but I wonder who the new 'Fire Lord' is.. assuming Zuko's gone.

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    I don't think there would be allowed to be a fire lord after Zuko, unless it's a purely figurehead thing like the Emperor in Japan. I'd like to think Zuko hung up his mantle and turned his nation over to the larger government (or are the nations still factionalized? If so, who technically owns Republic City? Everyone?) The fire lord did so much bad stuff though I can see the entire office going kaput.

    Hey, Mako doesn't have to be exactly like Zuko, the creators would be accused of boring repetition in that case. He's just a lot like him :D Honestly I'm mostly banking on them being related because of his name though, more than his looks or attitude. His name is symbolic of the guy who was Zuko's mentor, and symbols in media usually try to be affixed to a deeper meaning.

    Anyone else notice there was a lemur-thing like Momo flying around Tenzin's place? Guess they found more of those, too, huh.

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    No. His name has nothing to do with "Iroh".. it's just Iroh's original voice actor. They saw an opportunity to honor Mako, so they did with a firebender who has a few similarities to Zuko. That's all I see it as, honestly. Now if his name resembled Iroh at all.. then maybe I could see it like that, but they just saw it as a way to honor the real Mako. I guess the other thing I'd argue in terms of Mako not being related is due to Bolin, his brother. Guess we'll have to wait and see though! I can't wait. April 21st can't get here soon enough D:

    And yeah, I think it was said that when they found the other air bison, they also found more flying lemurs.

    And in terms of the Fire Lord thing.. yeah, I guess I could see that title just going away after all the talks of peace and stuff with Republic City was started up. I figure if it does exist, it'd be as you said; a figurehead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silenka View Post

    edit: As for pro-bending, I'm a little confused myself. The teams seem to consist of one each of water, fire and earth benders. Firebenders can make their own fire fine, but earth and waterbenders need to use resources available to them. There is a ton of water underneath the arena but is that where they're pulling it from? I assume it would take a lot of skill and work to pull it from that far down and use it as a weapon. Then earthbending, how do they earthbend and not destroy the arena they're standing on? Every time someone earthbended in the previous series, it seemed like it displaced the earth they were using from one place to another, which makes sense. Where's the earth coming from in this case? Unless I totally missed something. I don't know how a firebender runs out of juice, but I can see the other two having problems.
    Posted last page in a tumblr link explaining pro bending. Water sources are in the grates at the zone lines. Rock tiles are replenishing from the flush slots on the arena floor. As for the earthbending not shattering the platform, I will point to "Loading the Toph" from season 3. I suppose they can levitate a tile (or in Toph's case, a huge freaking boulder) without destroying a boat or a solid platform.

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    I would assume the 4 bending nations still have their own 'monarchs', why wouldn't they? Just because Ozai and Sozin fucked up doesn't mean they would abolish the position entirely. Zuko as far as we know helped repair the fire nations reputation along side Aang. Wouldn't seem right unless there is some central government in place that hasn't been introduced yet.

    I can't see Mako being Zuko's descendant. I can't see a member of the royal family living in the attic of the arena just because he plays sports there. I'd think there'd be an apartment or w/e.

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    I just don't see the Firelord's kids somehow winding up as orphans in Republic City. Mako and Bolin are not Zuko's. Assuming bending is hereditary, however, it could stand to reason their parents are Earth- and Firebenders; remember that Republic City was built in the original Fire-colonized Earth territories, so it's not as if Earth and Firebenders wouldn't have the chance to mingle.

    And I rather doubt the position of Firelord was simply abolished because of the previous war. Zuko sought to restore the Fire Nation's honor. The comic leaked/released described much of the post-war strife coming form those colonized lands, so I think that with the formation of Republic City, he succeeded in restoring that honor.

    I am wondering, however, when we're going to hear more of the other three kingdoms. Republic City sits in the colonized lands and may be a center for peace, but it isn't the whole world. It'd be cool to see delegates from the Northern Water Tribe, Earth Kingdom, and Fire Nation... as well as Zuko's descendants.

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    I think we wrote the same thing at the same time, lol...

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    Yeah, pretty much. You beat me to it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    No. His name has nothing to do with "Iroh".. it's just Iroh's original voice actor.
    I thought that was all I said. I've only said that because Iroh was Zuko's mentor, and wanted Zuko to follow the 'true way of a firebender' or whatever, that naming his upright chilld/grandchild after Iroh's VA would be kind of poetic. I don't really understand what you thought I said, since I agree with you in that they wanted to honor Mako himself, but if they were going to make him a firebender anyway, why not take it even further and give it extra meaning. There is no reason to tie Mako (the character) to Iroh's character, just what he did for Zuko. I don't think I'm really putting this into words well, but it makes sense to me. Poetic gestures are often not very transparent, at any rate.

    And to address Kobb and Sunrider: Why wouldn't someone of the royal line live in an attic to do pro-bending? Maybe he ran away from home (parallel to Korra running away to Rep.City and escaping to see the pro-bending match) because pro-bending was frowned upon in his uptight tradition-bound household and he had to rebel? He seems like the kind of guy who doesn't care where he lives as long as he's doing what he wants to do. Look, now he and Korra have something in common, they're both huge rebels who will unite in the end to do the right thing and also fall in love! Come on, who can't see the series going this way? Honestly, that would be fine, but I hope they surprise us with something different.

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    Ah, well see.. I'm good with honoring Mako as a whole by naming a main character after him, but I don't agree behind the reasoning of it tying to Zuko at all. That's what I was saying.

    And yeah, I agree with Sun/Kobb in how he probably isn't Zuko's grandson. I just find it hard, even if things had moved toward 'peace' for someone of the royal line from Zuko's family marrying an Earthbender, even if that's silly. Either way, we'll find out next month!

    As for seeing stuff from other nations.. Yeah. I want to see the Earth/Water/Fire delegates along with descendants from maybe Sokka and Suki (assuming that's how it wound up), Zuko and mai.. Aang and Katara's other two kids, and so on. Would be really cool. Plus hopefully they'll talk about who Toph got together with! Haha. So much stuff I want to see about the old cast..

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