Avatar: The Legend of Korra

**Caiyuo** · 2012-06-19 21:03

Another great one of Lin from this scene, I watch it every now and then just because her and Korra are such absolute badasses in it

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Fuck I love this fanart community

**Qeomash** · 2012-06-20 02:34

I hope that we see Lin again--she has the potential to be a badass in a fight even without her bending. I also wonder if we'll ever find out what the scars on her face are from--hopefully nothing as mundane as an accident while learning to control the cable.

**Deftscythe** · 2012-06-20 02:39

She talked back to Toph when she was a kid.

However it happens, I'll be surprised if we don't see Amon's victims get their bending back. It will be a cool bit of story because not only will Lin regain her battle goddess status, but there could be an episode where Korra has to make a tough ethical choice about Tarrlok's bending.

**vadre** · 2012-06-20 02:53

Originally Posted by Eurell

Totally unrelated to the point of the post but... Azula > Amon thereisaidit.

**thetruepandagod** · 2012-06-20 04:18

**thetruepandagod** · 2012-06-20 04:30

In terms of villainy how do you guys rank them out of zhao/azula/ozai/amon/tarlok?

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**Sunrider** · 2012-06-20 06:17

Originally Posted by thetruepandagod

In terms of villainy how do you guys rank them out of zhao/azula/ozai/amon/tarlok?

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I'd place Ozai first. He was about as close to the definition of "evil" as you could get in The Last Airbender: cruel, ruthless, ambitious, and more than a little sadistic. I think he harbors more dimension than you give him credit for--he is where Zhao wanted to be. Zhao was also ruthless, cruel, and sadistic, but lower on the ladder--that blind ambition would have moved him up. Who knows? In a different world, he would have become Ozai's right hand man and the two would have conspired against each other (one to retain power, the other to usurp it). They really were the same sort of person, simply born into different positions. If the roles were reversed, I'm sure Ozai's overweening pride would have gotten him killed the way Zhao's did.

Azula is a close second. I'd rate her as being more bloodthirsty and vindictive than her father, but she's kind of the result of parental conditioning. Her basically evil father eagerly took her under his wing, while her mother shunned her. As we came to learn Azula acted like she didn't care, but when the chips were down, the difference in her parents' treatments mattered to her. It probably drove her further toward cruelty and domination, so as to retain her father's regard. Unlike Ozai (who was pretty close to inherently evil), Azula probably stood a small chance of being well-adjusted.

Zhao ranks third, for the reasons previously stated. I ranked him under Azula since she's probably more vicious than both Zhao and her father, though less naturally mean. Honestly, it'd probably be more honest to say Azula and Zhao are tied.

I'd rank Tarrlok just under Zhao. Tarrlok is manipulative, ruthless, and ambitious, but he doesn't carry that sadistic streak characteristic of Zhao, Azula, and Ozai. The guy just wanted to run shit and be popular: he wasn't afraid of leaving corpses behind in his pursuit of power, but would have preferred to keep allies and pawns.

Amon is simply fanatical. There's a ring of truth to his ideal, but it's tinged with madness. In his quest to make the world safe for non-benders, he's painted all benders as non-negotiable threats, which simply the case. I think of him less as evil and more as crazy/misguided.

**Eurell** · 2012-06-20 06:19

Azula was the best because she was fucking nuts. I have never been more entertained with any villain before, and watching her fucking lose it in the finale was just amazing.

What exactly was the reason she had blue fire though? I can't remember why she was the only one.

**Sunrider** · 2012-06-20 06:34

Originally Posted by Eurell

What exactly was the reason she had blue fire though? I can't remember why she was the only one.

I think it was the second season (a few episodes after Azula was introduced), that Iroh explained her hotter, blue flame as having to do with the purity of her focus (keep in mind Azula being characterized as a perfectionist and a natural prodigy). I question that, however, since the season finale saw her lose her marbles completely, which implies a distinct lack of focus (even Zuko noted, that she was "slipping"), which means her flames should have died down to a cooler orange.

So, maybe she's just a mutant, having been born with a naturally hotter flame.

**thetruepandagod** · 2012-06-20 06:45

Originally Posted by Sunrider

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I'd place Ozai first. He was about as close to the definition of "evil" as you could get in The Last Airbender: cruel, ruthless, ambitious, and more than a little sadistic. I think he harbors more dimension than you give him credit for--he is where Zhao wanted to be. Zhao was also ruthless, cruel, and sadistic, but lower on the ladder--that blind ambition would have moved him up. Who knows? In a different world, he would have become Ozai's right hand man and the two would have conspired against each other (one to retain power, the other to usurp it). They really were the same sort of person, simply born into different positions. If the roles were reversed, I'm sure Ozai's overweening pride would have gotten him killed the way Zhao's did.

Azula is a close second. I'd rate her as being more bloodthirsty and vindictive than her father, but she's kind of the result of parental conditioning. Her basically evil father eagerly took her under his wing, while her mother shunned her. As we came to learn Azula acted like she didn't care, but when the chips were down, the difference in her parents' treatments mattered to her. It probably drove her further toward cruelty and domination, so as to retain her father's regard. Unlike Ozai (who was pretty close to inherently evil), Azula probably stood a small chance of being well-adjusted.

Zhao ranks third, for the reasons previously stated. I ranked him under Azula since she's probably more vicious than both Zhao and her father, though less naturally mean. Honestly, it'd probably be more honest to say Azula and Zhao are tied.

I'd rank Tarrlok just under Zhao. Tarrlok is manipulative, ruthless, and ambitious, but he doesn't carry that sadistic streak characteristic of Zhao, Azula, and Ozai. The guy just wanted to run shit and be popular: he wasn't afraid of leaving corpses behind in his pursuit of power, but would have preferred to keep allies and pawns.

Amon is simply fanatical. There's a ring of truth to his ideal, but it's tinged with madness. In his quest to make the world safe for non-benders, he's painted all benders as non-negotiable threats, which simply the case. I think of him less as evil and more as crazy/misguided.

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**Ragnus** · 2012-06-20 06:49

Random Amon theory running around blogs that I saw. Don't read ahead if you don't want potential MASSIVE, MASSIVE, MASSIVE finale spoilers. That said, there are many holes in this theory so it could just be a very well thought out piece of background fanfic.

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I don't know how true this is but someone posted this and I've been seeing it all over some blogs. Just thought it would be interesting to post. According to him, Amon is a man known as Hakoi Fen, a previous student to Avatar Aang before he died. Within his time as a child, Hakoi lived on a farm with his two parents (unnamed). Being extorted by local bending gangs ( consisting of a young Yakkone, A nameless fire bender, and earth bender named Umo) Hakoi and his family were forced in to pay heavy fees in exchange for "protection". In an attempt to help his family Hakoi stood up to the fire benders, who in turn disfigured his face. In rage Hakoi's Father retaliated at the gang but was killed.

While traveling on a spiritual Pilgrimage to better connect himself with the spiritual world, Aang Met Hakoi. The two became well acquainted and soon became friends, meeting up at an old cherry blossom tree to meditate and talk. Aang soon found out about Hakoi's troubles and swiftly took care of the fire bending gangs.

Hakoi was not pleased with the fact that Aang did not kill the gang members, and began to feel a negative outlook on all benders in general for their misuse of their powers. While relations with Hakoi began to draw thin, Aang decided to teach Hakoi a unique form of bending he called "Withdrawal Bending" (also known as energy bending). Unknown to Hakoi though, Aang only taught him half of what was required for energy bending, only allowing him to block the mind but not the body.
Upon Aang's departure Hakoi tended to his mother who's health was declining due to severe depression.

After she died Hakoi began a pilgrimage of his own, where he met members of the Kioshi warriors who taught him chi blocking, then later he met the descendants of the Mechanist who passed on their knowledge of machinery to Hakoi.Hakoi soon learned that electricity produced from a fire bender was unique. A form of accelerated Chi, A fire benders electricity had potential to create a back flow of chi which would render bending un-usable for a certain amount of time. Using his new found knowledge Hakoi, dawned as Amon and began his reign of equalism.

**Sunrider** · 2012-06-20 07:50

Originally Posted by thetruepandagod

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**Qeomash** · 2012-06-20 10:57

Originally Posted by Ragnus

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**Salodin** · 2012-06-20 11:13

Originally Posted by Qeomash

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**Ragnus** · 2012-06-20 11:15

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**Airenn** · 2012-06-20 11:54

Also, that seems to complicated. It really does. IF Amon's chapter is over this series, I highly doubt that's the explanation. There's way too much in there to fit into 2 episodes. I really do think it's something much simpler.

**Akiyama** · 2012-06-20 17:44

Interesting theory. We'll see, though.

Still, super hyped for the finale. :< The Avatar fandom does produce some nice fanart if you ignore the crazy shit.

As for relationships from the first series.. they were all barely touched on, honestly. Not as..heavy focus as they are here in Korra with this love triangle. IMO anyway.

**blindSharingan** · 2012-06-20 18:19

You need to rewatch the first series I think. I started netflixing random episodes to rewatch and I'm honestly surprised I didn't realize how often they have scenes of Aang crushing on Katara or they play up jealousy between the two. Really the difference is that in Korra both parties are aware of the others feelings.

**Eurell** · 2012-06-20 18:33

It really was a major plot point of many episodes the more I think about it.

**Salodin** · 2012-06-20 18:42

Difference is there were three full length seasons to spread it out in, with so many more things happening as well.

In this half season length they're cramming all those relationship developments into such a small time frame that its so much more noticeable.

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