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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    Originally Posted by Camate
    Due to the fact that Port Jeuno congestion has not been completely erased since the implementation of the /yell feature, we will be looking into the implementation of the below:
    • Re-installment of bazaar taxes
    • Temporary suspension of the auction house
      *Both are limited to Port Jeuno.
    We are aware that this will create some inconveniences, so we will be closely monitoring feedback on this and other aspects of the change.
    I can understand them not wanting to make a city -> jeuno direct warp by the knowledge that they have resisted putting basic conveniences in this game so often and for so long, it probably hasn't occured to them and if it has then "oh we can't do that". But at this point, I'd really like to hear the justification behind it. I can go from Jeuno -> Anywhere increadibly fast. I can go from Bastok -> more places even faster. What is the reasoning behind letting me get to a meeting place slower than letting me teleport all around the world?

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    Everyone's just going to move to Ru'Lude or Lower Jeuno (2005 says hi) after this... so how long until they re-implement taxes in all areas of the city?

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    rolanmarket ho. good to know port jeuno is what's wrong with the game right now, i never knew

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    Top tier event atm: Abyssea
    Did SE add Abyssea relevant abyssea in 3 towns: Yes
    Are there Magian Moogles in 3 towns: no
    incentive to HP elsewhere since once you upgrade a piece or weapon, you STILL have to go to jeuno: none

    SE's always lacked foresight when it comes to bottlenecking.

    and its also a lazyness thing, most people arent going to want to go out of their way to change HP. If SE wanted to see if theres some serious congestion issues, they'd have to wipe everyones HP that's in PJ (set it to their home nation) and see who changes it back to PJ.

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    The Port Jeuno combination of having the abyssea npcs and the AH right next to each other is pretty awful. Weekends it's a total lagfest.

    But the run is the shortest from MH to cruor warp in any zone in vanadiel afaik so it's hard to justify moving HP. I'd like to see abyssea npcs in every jeuno area. I think that would help a lot actually. People could pick their favorite spot to hang. Just put them equidistant from each MH in each part of Jeuno. People start using yell for everything. Would work well I think.

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    Leaving furnaces in PJ made the LEAST sense when it comes to alleviating congestion. I always preferred the furnace in Upper Jeuno until they took it away from me -.-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvein View Post
    The Port Jeuno combination of having the abyssea npcs and the AH right next to each other is pretty awful. Weekends it's a total lagfest.

    But the run is the shortest from MH to cruor warp in any zone in vanadiel afaik so it's hard to justify moving HP. I'd like to see abyssea npcs in every jeuno area. I think that would help a lot actually. People could pick their favorite spot to hang. Just put them equidistant from each MH in each part of Jeuno. People start using yell for everything. Would work well I think.
    This pretty much.

    How fucking hard is it to:
    - Set Warp NPC's accross the AH in EVERY jeuno zone and not just for Abyssea, TOAU and home nation too (since you got no airships in other parts of Jeuno).
    - Move that warp scroll NPC next to those NPC's. I don't know about anybody else, but I don't like running to the end of the Jeuno zone, just to pick up a scroll. Or make scrolls stack, so I don't have to do it every time. For people who now think: just get a warp cudgel, I got those, but I like instant scrolls instead of waiting 30 secs.
    - Set an AH NPC as far from the MH as in Port Jeuno, don't give a fuck if it makes sense for places like rulude, people don't like running 10 miles and that's why they go for Port Jeuno too, I think only Lower Jeuno has a shorter distance.
    - As mentioned, remove the Rulude cutscene bullshit.

    There ya go, every zone is now as convinient as Port Jeuno, but no, lets raise taxes instead of actually fixing shit. Even if they only used this idea for the easy doable Lower Jeuno, they could fix half their problem already.

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    - Leave the Explorer Moogles in full time instead of having them appear for Ease of Exploration. Have them offer a warp to Ru'Lude for rank 4 characters or above - you save your nation's ambassador to get that rank, and the embassies are in Ru'Lude, so there's some logic to it. They can always save the inter-nation transport for Ease of Exploration.

    - Put a Repatriation option on the Artisan Moogles (or another moogle) - it could be explained as a desire for the MHMU to allow you better access to Moogle services such as Storage and Gardening.

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    I'm sure their reasons for not having all of that stuff in Lower Jeuno are related to MMM. However, I see precisely zero reasoning for Upper Jeuno not having anything useful.

    Oh, and I don't see them EVER putting magian moogles in the other cities. That means they'd have to put the boxes where you deposit the trial items as well. And generally it would be too much work for SE's current team of 5 people.

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    Weren't we running into an issue of SE running out of available zones to use? What a great time to delete the airship zones and repurpose them into something useful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Weren't we running into an issue of SE running out of available zones to use? What a great time to delete the airship zones and repurpose them into something useful!
    If I remember correctly they also have variations of moghouses. There is one moghouse for each of the 3 starting cities that you are allied to which becomes your home mog, and then 3 moghouses that are copies but are used when you visit other nations to change jobs and what not. So if they got rid of the copies, they could obtain 3 more zones. There also might be another copy(3) as unopened moghouses but it's been a long time since I've looked into it.

    Also, if it were possible, SE should have combined the different section of the cities together so that they were all one zone so you could move in between areas seamlessly like Windurst Waters having a north and a south, but you don't really zone change when moving between the two maps. Then again, this could also create a lot of congestion having a lot of people in the same zone.

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    or change "byte zone_id" to "int zone_id", and shift all data a byte here and there, where a zone id was stored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvein View Post
    The Port Jeuno combination of having the abyssea npcs and the AH right next to each other is pretty awful. Weekends it's a total lagfest.

    But the run is the shortest from MH to cruor warp in any zone in vanadiel afaik so it's hard to justify moving HP. I'd like to see abyssea npcs in every jeuno area. I think that would help a lot actually. People could pick their favorite spot to hang. Just put them equidistant from each MH in each part of Jeuno. People start using yell for everything. Would work well I think.
    The fact that the Porter Moogle is so damn convenient in Port Windurst is a huge factor in my HP choice. I know a lot of people don't use Porters are frequently as I do, but its about 10 steps from the MH, and about 5 steps before the Abyssea NPCs, which makes it excellent for changing jobs on the fly.

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    How about we get rid of these retarded NPC pirates and simply give players the ability to cruor warp whenever we're in any nation city/jeuno area through the use of an item or something. Why limit our ability to warp specific to a damn NPC... totally agree that SE never has the foresight on any of this shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate
    Since there seem to be quite a few comments and feedback on the proposed changes, we’d like to share our current thoughts and direction on the topic.

    Reinstatement of taxes and the temporary suspension of the auction house
    In regards to taxes, we received a lot of feedback about reinstating taxes not only in Port Jeuno, but in Ru’Lude Gardens, or all of Jeuno, as well.

    Also in regards to the auction house, since there are quite a few cases where players would check the AH while waiting for shouts or while chatting with their linkshell/party, we believe this is also one cause of congestion. Of course, we do not believe that this is the main cause, however.

    Create multiple Abyssea-related NPCs and seal storage NPCs
    As was pointed out, often used NPCs are another reason for area congestion. We understand making multiple NPCs would act as a congestion countermeasure, however, the amount of content that would need to be developed and tested is comparatively high, and we would like to take our time to deal with this properly.

    This doesn’t mean that we don’t want to do this, but as a result of us duplicating or moving NPCs, there is a concern that game freezing or other problems might crop up, so this isn’t the type of countermeasure we can implement right away.
      
    /yell area expansion
    We determined that expanding the areas that are covered by /yell would have a positive effect on relieving congestion.

    Looking at the current level of usage and lag conditions, we are looking into adding covered areas. However, as previously stated, since this places stress on the server, it isn’t realistic to make this possible for every area.
      
    In-game bulletin board
    This was addressed previously in another thread, but since it is the same answer, I will just pull the quote from there:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mocchi
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/im..._halloween.jpg http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/im...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Mocchi http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/im...post-right.png
    -In-game bulletin board
    -Since there isn’t a large amount of space where we can save text data, this is something that would require quite a lot of development resources to implement.
    -Also, depending on the platform, there will be some players who will be able to use this and some who will not. Please consider this as something that we cannot implement.
    Whitegate/Al Zahbi/Chocobo Circuit bazaar taxes and auction house charges
    We are currently looking into these areas for possible adjustments. However, considering that we are planning to revamp content such as Nyzul Isle and Einherjar as well as expand the FoV/GoV areas, we feel that there is too high of a risk associated with changing these other aspects.



    While we consider the above points, we will add Ru’Lude Gardens to our list of possible adjustments, and monitor it a bit.

    We are also concerned that Ru’Lude Gardens would then become more congested then the current Port Jeuno situation, so we feel that the primary task is to lay the groundwork for making it easy to separate these areas.

    We realize that each World has different trend and differences in peak times, and not everyone is going to share the same sentiments about this. However, based on the fact that it may not be congested for you currently, but that there is a chance congestion may develop again, please let us know your feedback.
    Make /shout in Jeuno act like the current yell system.

    Make /yell go to starter cities and whitegate, but put a minute recast on it so people can't spam their stupidity. Also, increase our /blacklist capability because shit is going to get dumb very fast.

    Encourage people to Bazaar in the Chocobo Circuit since the zone is useless anyway.

    Have the outpost guy warp from major cities to Jeuno so people can gather for parties and/or turn in Magian weapons.

    You're welcome.

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    also 2nding previous guy

    also

    Let us invite people from anywhere. Region restriction is stupid and unnecessary. (Or at least from/to any city)
    Link yell between all major cities. 1min reuse timer should be fine.
    NPC warp to Jeuno from main cities

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    Something tells me the invite from anywhere isn't possible due to hardware limitations.

    The runic portal, airship and other 'stupid door' cutscenes can rightly diaf.

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    They need to remove all useless cutscenes whos only sole purpose is wasting time:

    "Hi I'm a fucking worthless weaboo moogle, I'm gonna upgrade your armor k brah"
    "I can do this trial with that armor"
    "heres what you need / what you get"
    "do you want to do this trial"
    "Do you really want to do this trial"
    "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee moogle magic"
    "weeeeeeeee more moogle magic"
    "weeeeeeeee more fucking moogle magic"
    "weeee trial insignia"
    "weeeeeee you cant do any other trials"
    "weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee more fucking moogle magic"

    can easily be cut down to:
    Heres what you need / what you'll get
    do you want to do this trial
    ok done go get the items


    Any trial with only one possible path should not need a trial # confirmation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    They need to remove all useless cutscenes whos only sole purpose is wasting time:

    "Hi I'm a fucking worthless weaboo moogle, I'm gonna upgrade your armor k brah"
    "I can do this trial with that armor"
    "heres what you need / what you get"
    "do you want to do this trial"
    "Do you really want to do this trial"
    "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee moogle magic"
    "weeeeeeeee more moogle magic"
    "weeeeeeeee more fucking moogle magic"
    "weeee trial insignia"
    "weeeeeee you cant do any other trials"
    "weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee more fucking moogle magic"

    can easily be cut down to:
    Heres what you need / what you'll get
    do you want to do this trial
    ok done go get the items


    Any trial with only one possible path should not need a trial # confirmation.
    If I counted how many times I saw those fucking Magian Moogle "stars and hearts and shit flying at you like a random Sailor Moon attack" scenes (Seriously, I feel like shouting "Moogle Prism Power Make-Up" before turning in a weapon) I probably would jump into traffic because of all of that time wasted. I would love to see those removed from the game.

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    It's atleast a 30 second long cutscene, both starting and finishing the trial, so two minutes per weapon/armor. It's obviously a fraction over the course of your lifetime, but upgrading an empyrian and full AF3+2 for one job is 12 trials for weapon, and 10 trials for armor...24 trials, over 25 minutes of time completely wasted in a cutscene that offers absolutely nothing other than to waste time. Now throw in a second empyrian, 10 jobs with full AF3+2, another 5 with AF3+1, thats a lot of time wasted for no reason >.>

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