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    Looks like all those "Should've been a Ukon/Vere" comments that pop up when people say they made dagger/scythe/polearm are going right down the shitter. And honestly I'm guessing the ws are going to be nerfed to the level of basically every other emp ws out there, it's not like they're going to be worthless now. You can say they're going to have.....BARANCE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    What the fuck? What I am reading:
    * We are removing Ukko's huge crit bonus and Blood Rage's +20% Crit damage
    * In exchange, we will give you the Double Attack II and Critical Damage Bonus III tiers that we implemented and then removed on the test server for Warrior.

    There must be some serious JP backlash against WAR being a good DD or something.
    You're gonna sit there and tell us you didn't see this coming? I mean... Ukko's is unreasonably stronger than anything else in every single situation. Vere is unreasonably better than anything else, including relic and mythic in every single situation. We both know WAR isn't getting nerfed to the point where it's useless. Relaxo.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dominico View Post
    Looks like all those "Should've been a Ukon/Vere" comments that pop up when people say they made dagger/scythe/polearm are going right down the shitter. And honestly I'm guessing the ws are going to be nerfed to the level of basically every other emp ws out there, it's not like they're going to be worthless now. You can say they're going to have.....BARANCE.
    Nah, you can count on me to still tell everyone who has a whatever the fuck that scythe is called that it should have been a Vere. Same will go for the Ukon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    WTF are you saying.
    Victory smite is fucking around 15/20/25, thats almost fucking nothing. Ukko is somewhere around 30/50/80 and thats huge yeah but it has no impetus to play with and no real option for ddex build. SAM will dominate now and thats what Tanaka wants. He can gtfo. Only ppl who wanted WAR and MNK to get nerfed were DRKs (which should be buffed instead of nerfing WAR and MNK) and some lol jobs like THFs that for some stupid reasons want to be on par with WAR on dealing damage.

    Also Blood rage is for PARTY not only WAR which can be used as 2 min buff if you have 2 war in a party and for all in a party.
    To be fair, us drk's who aren't idiots just wanted to be buffed. We didn't want war and mnk nerfed. They're two of my favorite jobs to play when i'm not on drk.

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    this highlights the difference between the older dev team we got back and the interim dev team that gave us abyssea. the interim team's MO was "some jobs are unbalanced and overpowered. let's try to find ways to enhance the underpowered jobs to balance things out." this lead to some updates where stronger jobs got less or near to nothing, but hey, there was always new gear, new content, new levels, it wasn't all that bad to be a little shortchanged on spells or abilities.

    The old dev team has returned with vengeance, seeking to create some kind of Harrison Bergeron dystopia where any job that gets slightly ahead gets crushed and punished mercilessly until it is a good little job, no better than the weakest. Both the old dev team and the interim team had the same goal: make more jobs useful and less "lolbst, lolpup, loldrg, etc." situations where everyone is one or two jobs, but their methods were almost diametrically opposed. I think I speak for most players when I say I like the interim team's way much better.

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    Man, this is some bullshit, disheartening news about War, and Ukko's Fury.

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    It's ok, this nerf is overshadowed by the fact they are fixing bastion!

    [dev1062] Bastion Adjustments

    Bastion Mage NPCs will no longer cast area-effect elemental magic spells.
    JOY!

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    And SAM moves back to top position.

    Just as planned.

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    For the record, as a THF, I have no idea what Atoreis is talking about. I don't care about doing as much damage as a WAR, or any other DD. You can't even compare 1-handers aside from MNK to 2handers. And THF now has other subjob options thanks to getting DW3, /WAR in particular. That's a huge gain for THFs. Do I still want more? Sure, but everybody wants more for their favorite job. All that being said, I think THF should get Triple Attack II and I'd be content with that for now.

    I've never heard any THF say "BAWWWWW WE WANT TO DO AS MUCH DAMAGE AS WAR OMG WTF SE NERF THEM". Of course I don't frequent the OF. :\

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    people wonder why I disappeared for 2 months, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    For the record, as a THF, I have no idea what Atoreis is talking about. I don't care about doing as much damage as a WAR, or any other DD. You can't even compare 1-handers aside from MNK to 2handers. And THF now has other subjob options thanks to getting DW3, /WAR in particular. That's a huge gain for THFs. Do I still want more? Sure, but everybody wants more for their favorite job. All that being said, I think THF should get Triple Attack II and I'd be content with that for now.

    I've never heard any THF say "BAWWWWW WE WANT TO DO AS MUCH DAMAGE AS WAR OMG WTF SE NERF THEM". Of course I don't frequent the OF. :\
    Yeah that would be a reason.

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    Fuck this shit. Why the fuck did they need to nerf bloodrage, a 5min ability with a short duration? I fucking hate the dev team.

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    WAR did need a nerf. I think the title of "pure DD" is a bit irrelevant in FFXI, given how powerful pdt/mdt gear and possibly utsusemi are.

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    Big problem I have is that Tachi: Shoha was already extremely close to ukko's, this will likely put sam on top if it wasn't already.

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    WAR did need a nerf. I think the title of "pure DD" is a bit irrelevant in FFXI, given how powerful pdt/mdt gear and possibly utsusemi are.
    They are pushing the use of that DT gear with VW drops anyway..and anways they do this now? the timing couldn't be worse. Everyone is already raging over all the various crap.

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    While I do think that Warrior needed a nerf, I feel bad for those that took Ukon to 95 thinking it would be their best DD weapon without a doubt (as I suspect this will put Bravura at top).

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    Seriously, why the fuck couldn't they just do this when they did their restraint nerf? I'm just glad I wasn't going too hardcore at plate buying, or I would have dumped 150mil into a shit weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    Seriously, why the fuck couldn't they just do this when they did their restraint nerf? I'm just glad I wasn't going too hardcore at plate buying, or I would have dumped 150mil into a shit weapon.
    A bit premature for that isn't it?

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    The crit rate boost was one of the major things that made Ukko's so good on high level content. I'm almost certain Tachi: Shoha will be better now with it's atk bonus.

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    I think this is symptomatic of them boxing themselves into a developmental corner by making players so powerful. If they simply buff everyone up to the point that WAR and MNK are at they're just further compounding the problem. That's not to say that I agree with how they're handling it, but sadly I don't think the dev team is smart and/or dedicated enough to come up with a intelligent solution to the problem of over-poweredness. The best they've come up with so far is insta-Death and hate resets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    The crit rate boost was one of the major things that made Ukko's so good on high level content. I'm almost certain Tachi: Shoha will be better now with it's atk bonus.
    Do not know how MUCH they're nerfing it yet. Jesus. o.o

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