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    Quote Originally Posted by Colenzo View Post
    just talking about those times where you roll two sixes in a row, then you fold then you roll again , roll up to a six again, roll on that, get another 6 cutmylifeintopieces
    You can just log off and on (or zone) and it clears busts. I do it occasionally when I'm out of options. Exploitz, gonna get banned, etc., but it's been that way forever. That's why I never really understood the utility of Fold, although I do have it merited once to unlock it. Not sure why rolls, or at least busts, don't stay on you when you zone or log out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    The yag near the crystal only shows if Windy doesn't control the zone, so people not seeing it wouldn't surprise me. When I did mine, I wound up killing the one near the castle, then did the recall/choco/trade/recall bit. Playing footsies with hippo aggro feels like it'd take way too long running to the spring and back to the campaign NPC.
    Hippos aren't terrible, but not really preferable. When I did it, I was doing main and mule, and my mule doesn't have the AN to choco, so that slowed it a lot. Thankfully, I ran into others killing pixies, and finished almost all of those two stages in one Lightsday.

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    I camped the yag by the castle with my thf and would recall my whm to pash and choco. Seemed the fastest to me without messing with aggro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slycer View Post
    You can just log off and on (or zone) and it clears busts. I do it occasionally when I'm out of options. Exploitz, gonna get banned, etc., but it's been that way forever. That's why I never really understood the utility of Fold, although I do have it merited once to unlock it. Not sure why rolls, or at least busts, don't stay on you when you zone or log out.
    sounds annoying, ill just wait 5 minutes np

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colenzo View Post
    sounds annoying, ill just wait 5 minutes np
    Yeah, me too. I've logged busts before but it's usually not worth the hassle.

    As for a few pages back; double 6s is the bane of my life. Statistically you only have a 17% chance of busting if you double up on a 6 but I swear to fuck it happens half of the time. lol

    Septimus, you have to be the most patient person on the planet. I gave up on perp staves when I got to sheep kills for my Garuda staff(first one I attempted lol). It just takes so ungodly long to solo those and in the weeks that I was working on that trial I never once saw another soul working on one nor could I get anyone interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auspice View Post
    Septimus, you have to be the most patient person on the planet. I gave up on perp staves when I got to sheep kills for my Garuda staff(first one I attempted lol). It just takes so ungodly long to solo those and in the weeks that I was working on that trial I never once saw another soul working on one nor could I get anyone interested.
    I don't mind grinding if I know that something good will come out of it. Sheep aren't too bad if you can level sync to 13 to kill the sheep on Vomp or Zhegam Hill in Grauberg, you will absolutely blow through those trials. (I did that with my Garuda trial. Sadly, I couldn't do that with my Shiva sheep trial and it was awful.) A many perp staff trials can be done a lot faster if you strategically level sync for certain low-level mobs because of how HP scales.

    I teamed up with a few SMN for Garuda and Shiva, but I never saw anyone else doing the rest of them. I don't care about being a snowflake, I did it because I really enjoy SMN.

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    is there even any need for perp staffs anymore? i mean other than shit like WoE?

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    Been Using my Fay Crozier (-3perp) and doing just fine with my Empyrean...

    With a perp- Staff you can get more MP Back with your Refresh/Auto-Refresh/etc, But other than that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colenzo View Post
    is there even any need for perp staffs anymore? i mean other than shit like WoE?
    They are pretty monstrous in Voidwatch since you are constantly building up MP even with an avatar out. I would guess Campaign also, but I haven't done that in ages.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Been Using my Fay Crozier (-3perp) and doing just fine with my Empyrean...

    With a perp- Staff you can get more MP Back with your Refresh/Auto-Refresh/etc, But other than that...
    Getting 3-4 MP a tick with an avatar out before any outside form of Refresh is pretty hot, you can pretty much hold your MP steady blood pacting every 45 seconds. (Then add in Refresh from /RDM and you are an MP dynamo.)

    Not to mention that all of my spirits are free. Every time I cast one and leave it out, I can feel Mala from the official forums cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    They are pretty monstrous in Voidwatch since you are constantly building up MP even with an avatar out. I would guess Campaign also, but I haven't done that in ages.



    Getting 3-4 MP a tick with an avatar out before any outside form of Refresh is pretty hot, you can pretty much hold your MP steady blood pacting every 45 seconds. (Then add in Refresh from /RDM and you are an MP dynamo.)

    Not to mention that all of my spirits are free. Every time I cast one and leave it out, I can feel Mala from the official forums cry.
    idk you get a billion different MP items in VW :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colenzo View Post
    idk you get a billion different MP items in VW :S
    I finished my staves before there were a billion different MP items in VW. (I actually finished my staves before VW, but that is a different story.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colenzo View Post
    idk you get a billion different MP items in VW :S
    Ehhh... having to not use MP stuff and have the TMP slot free to get the good shit repeatenly is pretty hawt, too. Especially with what the difficulty curve of VW seems to turn out to be.


    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    I finished my staves before there were a billion different MP items in VW. (I actually finished my staves before VW, but that is a different story.)

    Septimus the Staffhipster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyramion View Post
    Ehhh... having to not use MP stuff and have the TMP slot free to get the good shit repeatenly is pretty hawt, too. Especially with what the difficulty curve of VW seems to turn out to be.

    Septimus the Staffhipster.
    TMP slot? Hmmm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyramion View Post
    Septimus the Staffhipster.
    No. Because I didn't level up the staves ironically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    No. Because I didn't level up the staves ironically.
    You did it before it was cool?

    (i'm really, really sorry. I couldn't resist)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth View Post
    TMP slot? Hmmm?
    I believe he means the yellow proc !! only restore items you're missing. So if you only use fana drinks you only get them back from yellow !!'s etc. Don't want a shitty temp back from a proc.

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    ^this

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    Ah okays. Thought there was some hidden mechanic to get better drops in Voidwatch!!!!

    Hahaha...hard to say that with a straight face ><

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apelila View Post
    You did it before it was cool?

    (i'm really, really sorry. I couldn't resist)
    No, because it obviously still isn't cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    They are pretty monstrous in Voidwatch since you are constantly building up MP even with an avatar out. I would guess Campaign also, but I haven't done that in ages.



    Getting 3-4 MP a tick with an avatar out before any outside form of Refresh is pretty hot, you can pretty much hold your MP steady blood pacting every 45 seconds. (Then add in Refresh from /RDM and you are an MP dynamo.)

    Not to mention that all of my spirits are free. Every time I cast one and leave it out, I can feel Mala from the official forums cry.
    I don't know about 99 cos I haven't paid attention to perp cost since the cap rise but if perp cost didn't change then you can still get a 3mp/tic refresh with avatar out (or 4 at <75%mp with oneiros grip) with just the fay crozier. Additional perp pieces don't do very much unless it's enough to replace a perp EQ piece which you can replace with refresh gear, if you want to increase your mp/tic. And basically that's only possible when you hit -4 more than a fay crozier because body is like the cheapest piece you can swap out that offers refresh options.

    Without an avatar out then you're looking at like 6+mp/tic from
    SMN alone.

    With the abundance of perp gear, or the fact that perp doesn't rise as steeply, mp/tic with avatar out is limited mainly by refresh gear options now.

    For VW I personally prefer to swap to Hvergelmir for Myrkr because it means you have 1 more potent source of MP returns if you use it together with Tp wings.

    Also if you're content with using Favor you can even get that kind of mp return with a non-perp staff

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