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[NynJa]

You just like to kill stuff slower?

Why bring anything but ukon wars then? You must like to kill things slower if you bring anything thats not an ukon war.

Everyone here already agreed they bring the other jobs anyways and have no problem bringing them instead for DD.

Everyone here also primarily does VW as a LS event, not pickups I believe

[Alarial]

Is that a serious question?

[Prothescar]

"Very minor favor". lol.

And there's that "stronger as wel level" thing again :\

I'm done with this really, neither side is going to sway the other's thoughts. It's an effort in futility, hopefully things get evened out in time with the continued post-cap job adjustments, either making other jobs stronger, or otherwise. DRG jump enhancements are a decent enough indication that it may actually happen.

[NynJa]

You're the one who just based DD output on "how many wars you have"

[Taint]

The compromised changes post seem like a good medium.

[Appie]

I'd rather some adjustment to fucking VW's bullshit drop system instead of catering to these crybabies "WAHHHHHH MY WARS NOT A 10 ITS ONLY A 9 AND ITS STILL BETTER THAN ANY OTHER JOB WAHHHHHHHHH". How about "hey, if that rare/ex item drops in your chest, it'll go to treasure pool or get sent to another random chest in the alliance", or "hey were finally introducing a VW point system, so atleast now after killing Kaggen 50 times, you can guarantee yourself a Mekiogai or Belt"?

But noooooo, thanks e-peeners.

No problem man, SE will backpedal on the "we won't change VW chests" statement in about 6 months, like they did with "we won't nerf any jobs anymore".

Possibly the only good thing to come out of this backpedalling shit lol.

[The Blackrose]

I'm done with this really, neither side is going to sway the other's thoughts. It's an effort in futility, hopefully things get evened out in time with the continued post-cap job adjustments, either making other jobs stronger, or otherwise. DRG jump enhancements are a decent enough indication that it may actually happen.

"I'm done with this, but I'm going to make parting shots anyways so I can have some vector to re-enter the argument later because I know I'm sure as fuck not done."

Seriously, if you're going to exit stage left, don't sound like a passive-aggressive tardbucket.

[NynJa]

"I'm done with this, but I'm going to make parting shots anyways so I can have some vector to re-enter the argument later because I know I'm sure as fuck not done."

Seriously, if you're going to exit stage left, don't sound like a passive-aggressive tardbucket.

Yeah...where in there are there any parting shots?

[Greatguardian]

p.s., keep the mechs out of my FF please, this isn't Gundam.

Don't know where this came from, but it freaked me out because I was totally going to quote Ward on you.

"We Clans talk much of honor. Nothing is more precious to a Clan warrior than his honor. How do I define honor? Success"

The only thing that matters is the end result: Success. How you get there, and what you use to get there, are unimportant so long as the results are the same. If you can kill a VWNM in 5 minutes whether you're on Ukon or Vereth or Almace, then it makes little difference which you use to secure that result.

[Selamis]

It came because of my avatar, which somehow despite me never once saying it has anything to do with Final Fantasy, he somehow took that it did, upon my tongue in cheek comment of not referring to events in FF as raids.

[Prothescar]

It came because of my avatar, which somehow despite me never once saying it has anything to do with Final Fantasy, he somehow took that it did, upon my tongue in cheek comment of not referring to events in FF as raids.

Which holds about as much relevancy as me telling you to keep mechs out of FFXI. Funny how that works.

[Selamis]

Which holds about as much relevancy as me telling you to keep mechs out of FFXI. Funny how that works.

Uh no. You're grasping at straws here dude. You called Voidwatch a raid, which is a term not associated with the game itself, and more associated with WoW so I made a comment about not confusing the two. I'm not going around calling any of my characters pilots or anything Gundam related. My avatar has nothing to do with the game, and last I checked this was a forum that had multiple sections, and isn't just designated for Final Fantasy. Try harder.

[The Blackrose]

Shots? I don't see any shots at anyone there. Someone's angry.

Also, fuck off cunt. There's your shot :]

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[Byrthnoth]

I'm a WAR with a Ukon and I couldn't give two shits what they do to Warrior. I'm auto-running to the Porter Moogle in Lower Jeuno to store my Warrior gear as I write this. As far as I'm concerned, the job is really only useful for proccing and doing damage in Voidwatch. I do Voidwatch about once a week, and no one has asked me to go WAR lately. I'm hoping the trend keeps up so I don't have to get this shit back out for a while.

[Prothescar]

Uh no. You're grasping at straws here dude. You called Voidwatch a raid, which is a term not associated with the game itself, and more associated with WoW so I made a comment about not confusing the two. I'm not going around calling any of my characters pilots or anything Gundam related. My avatar has nothing to do with the game, and last I checked this was a forum that had multiple sections, and isn't just designated for Final Fantasy. Try harder.

Raid is an acceptable term for either game. As far as I'm aware, WoW hasn't copywritten the word "raid" and FFXI hasn't copywritten the word "event". They're synonymous, your personal preference is irrelevant. This is quite possibly the stupidest argument ever.

Further, I would suggest taking your own advice on a broader scale.

[Draylo]

Same, I have a Ukon too but I dislike playing on it mostly. Such a bandwagon job, I think that turns me off the most.

[vagus]

Warrior does do a lot of damage, but you don't need more then 1 to win in VW. 1 warrior is all you need for GaX / Axe trigger. If i can't find the main jobs to trigger, i'll get a second war.

[Greatguardian]

Which holds about as much relevancy as me telling you to keep mechs out of FFXI. Funny how that works.

They're not battlemechs. They're mobile suits. I'm the one with the battlemech avatar, dude.

Extremely relevant to the discussion, I know.

[Atoreis]

There is a difference to play bandwagon job with bandwagoned char and play on bandwagon job before it was bandwagon.

Im not talking about "I was playing this job before it was a bandwagon and I am better than YOU!" because that is fucking wrong.

Im talking about if you played a job before it was a bandwagon it was clearly because you liked it and enjoyed playing it. So Byrth dont say WAR is only good for this and that because some ppl will play WAR because they like it not only when its optimal for something. I know you just responded to posts implying that all WAR with Ukko will scream against nerf but I believe the person who wrote it wasnt mean ppl like you who only play this job when they need to.

[Vriska]

Oh joy, cue the meathead wankfest.