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    That would be a good system if I still had 400 stones

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    I like where this is going very much. Can someone post the original JP?

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    It makes me want to not do voidwatch atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    It makes me want to not do voidwatch atm.
    The last line in that post sounds like a warning that says this might take a while because there are so many items, blah blah, so I wouldn't hold my breath for it. I'm guessing it'd be at least a month or two before we see anything.

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    2 months is 80 stones saved up + casual campaign, say once a week for 5-10k is another 20-40 stones.

    That, with a potential system that doesn't suck as much, or keep spamming and hope the RNG blesses you because this time will be the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    2 months is 80 stones saved up + casual campaign, say once a week for 5-10k is another 20-40 stones.

    That, with a potential system that doesn't suck as much, or keep spamming and hope the RNG blesses you because this time will be the time.
    Let's team up for mega AN farmage! Look out lakshmi, we're bringing campaign back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    2 months is 80 stones saved up + casual campaign, say once a week for 5-10k is another 20-40 stones.

    That, with a potential system that doesn't suck as much, or keep spamming and hope the RNG blesses you because this time will be the time.
    I've had no stones for quite awhile now and never felt that I've been losing money buying void dust at 100k a run, but I do sell plates (and whatever spells I get.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp View Post
    I've had no stones for quite awhile now and never felt that I've been losing money buying void dust at 100k a run, but I do sell plates (and whatever spells I get.)
    Well that depends enterile on what you spend your gil on, if you are going for a mythic (alexandrite part) / empy past 90 or relic those 100k a run can hurt quiet the pocket (at least from my standpoint of view how much i spam voidwatch).

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    The cruor you make alone is worth 100k, I think. I don't consider myself particularly lucky but I know I've made something like 10 million gil off of Voidwatch in the past two months doing about 30-35 VWNMs per week, so purchasing about 20 stones per week = 500,000 gil per week, easily recuperated by selling items that can be sold. And my intent is not using Voidwatch as a way to make money at all, I'm just interested in the few rare/ex items that I still want that I don't have. Unless you're incredibly unlucky, over time, I don't think buying voiddust can possibly be a losing proposition (in terms of gil) unless you're only kililng stuff that doesn't have it's own potential rare gil drops.

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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post270854

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    こんにちは。
    
    先週の投稿でお約束していた、調整後の強化に必要なアイテムの予定数量をお知らせします。
    
    アイテムの必要数について
    試練の難易度に見合うように調整を行った結果、それぞれの武器群における一段階目の必要数は以下の値で考えています。
    
        レリックウェポン:5個
        ミシックウェポン:3個
        エンピリアンウェポン:60個
    
    ※二段階目については、引き続き慎重な検討を行っており、具体的な内容がお伝えできるようになり次第改めてお知らせします。
    
    
    試練の内容について
    アイテムの収集→討伐に変更してほしいというご意見がありました。
    
    開発チーム内でも検討はしていたのですが、いくつかの理由からその変更はしない方が良いのではと考えています。
    
    最も大きな理由は、1段階目の強化からアイテム収集する前提があり、事前にフォーラムでお伝えしていたという点です。
    既にアイテムを集めている方がいる以上、試練の内容は変更しない方が良いと考えました。
    
    
    またアイテムと討伐数の重みに違いがあるという点も説明させてください。
    
        18人で討伐して、1名がアイテムを1つ入手
        18人で討伐して、18名が討伐数1を入手
    
    単純に18倍することはありませんが、それでも 討伐数>アイテムという構図を基本として考えるため、
    試練内容を「アイテム収集」から「討伐」に変更した場合、数量が増える可能性が高いとお考えください。
    
    現時点では、「アイテム収集」とした場合の適切な数量の検討のみに留めていますので、仮定でも「討伐数が何体になります」というのはお伝えできませんが、このご意見をくださった皆さんが想像している試練の難易度と、変更後の試練の内容のギャップが生まれる可能性が最も高いのはこの点だと思っています。
    *Disclaimer: Do not quote this post without code tags or you will break the forums with runes*

    Essential information seems to be that they're reducing the 99 R/M/E trials again to 5 Marrows and 3 PW items. Emps are staying at 60.

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    thats old news from yesterday


    This is news from today though!
    Howdy!

    I bring some news regarding the Voidwatch loot system, which I think you all will appreciate quite a bit.

    The development team has been well aware of all of your frustrations when you friend hears you receive an item that they have been after for some time, but you are unable to pass it to them and have no choice but to toss it.

    They have been looking into adjustments to the reward system extremely carefully to preserve the benefit of each person receiving a personal reward when participating, instead of having to lot against others. As a result, they are thinking about implementing the below type of system.

    * In the event that a rare/ex item drops to you when you already possess the item, it will be possible to exchange that item for a ticket (name pending)
    * Once you obtain a certain amount of these tickets, it will be possible to exchange them for a rare/ex item of your choice.
    *There will be different types of tickets for different items and you will need to collect the respective ticket for the item you would like.
    *The required number of tickets is still being looked into and there is a possibility of change, but currently we estimate it to be about 5~6.
    * Tickets will be tradable and sellable.


    The development team feels that this will not destroy the meaning of having personal rewards, and though the drop rate balance will not be changed, even if you continue to have bad luck obtaining the item you wish, by collecting the tickets from your friends you will eventually be able to obtain the item.

    Since there are a lot of rewards items, meaning a large amount of tickets to be created, we will start off by looking into implementing the hard to get items first. Please understand that it will take some time before this is all implemented.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post271779

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post270854

    Transcript:
    Code:
    こんにちは。
    
    先週の投稿でお約束していた、調整後の強化に必要なアイテムの予定数量をお知らせします。
    
    アイテムの必要数について
    試練の難易度に見合うように調整を行った結果、それぞれの武器群における一段階目の必要数は以下の値で考えています。
    
        レリックウェポン:5個
        ミシックウェポン:3個
        エンピリアンウェポン:60個
    
    ※二段階目については、引き続き慎重な検討を行っており、具体的な内容がお伝えできるようになり次第改めてお知らせします。
    
    
    試練の内容について
    アイテムの収集→討伐に変更してほしいというご意見がありました。
    
    開発チーム内でも検討はしていたのですが、いくつかの理由からその変更はしない方が良いのではと考えています。
    
    最も大きな理由は、1段階目の強化からアイテム収集する前提があり、事前にフォーラムでお伝えしていたという点です。
    既にアイテムを集めている方がいる以上、試練の内容は変更しない方が良いと考えました。
    
    
    またアイテムと討伐数の重みに違いがあるという点も説明させてください。
    
        18人で討伐して、1名がアイテムを1つ入手
        18人で討伐して、18名が討伐数1を入手
    
    単純に18倍することはありませんが、それでも 討伐数>アイテムという構図を基本として考えるため、
    試練内容を「アイテム収集」から「討伐」に変更した場合、数量が増える可能性が高いとお考えください。
    
    現時点では、「アイテム収集」とした場合の適切な数量の検討のみに留めていますので、仮定でも「討伐数が何体になります」というのはお伝えできませんが、このご意見をくださった皆さんが想像している試練の難易度と、変更後の試練の内容のギャップが生まれる可能性が最も高いのはこの点だと思っています。
    *Disclaimer: Do not quote this post without code tags or you will break the forums with runes*

    Essential information seems to be that they're reducing the 99 R/M/E trials again to 5 Marrows and 3 PW items. Emps are staying at 60.
    That was actually confirmed by SE yesterday but they deleted that post so his post went along with it.

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    And people say constantly bitching does nothing.

    That or, VW has run its intended course and the new event(s) (Nyzul, Legion ----- Salvage) are intended to be the new timesinks.

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    Excellent start. But...how long will this take to implement is the burning question. It needs to happen (or at least start) as soon as possible so the player base will be somewhat appeased XD

    This can also help with heavy metal plates/ rift items if they are exchangeable with these tickets.

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    Like Slycer said, I wouldn't expect it for months...personally I would think after Legion.

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    I'm going to be optimistic and hope for a partial update at the same time as the legion/neo-nyzul update.

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    aaaaaaaand SE restored the thread with the dev posts about the 99 trials

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    Odd the post that was deleted about the 99 trials suddenly reappeared again, my bad hah.

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    My main concern is the breaking down of the ticket system. Can probably assume the various bodies will be their own ticket types, meaning instead of going 1/300 for one, it'd be more like 2/1800 for two if you don't fight that given mob specifically for the second, different body. The ability to trade tickets could help offset this, but I also wouldn't be surprised to see people asking for 10m+ for one.

    It's no "Add to Loot Pool" option, but it's better than what we have now.

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    Depends on implementation, SE will probably make it SE, but if Arbuda Grip=Ace's=Murasamasamamaune=HMPP then it's perfectly fine and offers incentive to go even if capped on drops.

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