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In the same post they also talk about healing adjustments. But again, weird translation, just posting it because its shoved in with the Save TP stuff.

Cure adjustment of the amount of recovery
Will be greater than the impact of skill to receive the amount of recovery of Cure recovery. Recovery amount is increased from the conventional high skill, if skill is low impact on the amount to virtually eliminate the reverse recovery.

Recovery of about 1.4 times the conventional amount: Up to Cure I ~ IV
No effect: Cure V ~ VI

Edit - Theres also a third post about enfeebles on HNM's, but it just comes through google translate as a total mess, need someone who can translates these proper.

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Adjustment for resistance weakened magic
That state (do not fall or nearly) for HNM monsters and which is resistant to a particular attribute, magic does not turn eliminates the weak.
Only a small part of the special monsters, but to maintain resistance to complete, is expected to be as given the effect of weakening against most monsters had a resistance so far.
※ effect without necessarily entering a 100% chance, of course resist may also be The lower the skill value. In addition, the highly resistant monster, you may receive in the form of resistance, such as shorter duration of effect.

[Damane]

someone pls turn that cure amount shit into english pls. Its totally misleading and totally confuseing.

[Byrthnoth]

You're going to get up to a 40% boost in your cure 1-4 potency for having capped healing skill.

[Foldypaws]

I want my cruor back then...

I *think* the atma + Miser's will still be worth using, although they're individually worthless, yes.

[Fwahm]

It's basically saying that on Cure I-IV, Healing skill will have a much larger effect, to around 1.4times what we cure for right now with capped skill.

Very low skill will put cures at around what they do right now, so cures lowered after the patch even if you have sub 30 healing skill.

[fantasticdan]

I would assume they mean cure 1-4 potency is being increased by up to 40%, dependent on healing magic skill.

edit: too slow

[Selamis]

Store TP note is hella confusing until properly translated. Sounds like a nerf though, wonder why so suddenly? If it is a nerf, does that change how people gear up for 5/6 hit builds and would need more Store TP? Do like the cure improvements.

[Foldypaws]

Store TP note is hella confusing until properly translated. Sounds like a nerf though, wonder why so suddenly? If it is a nerf, does that change how people gear up for 5/6 hit builds and would need more Store TP? Do like the cure improvements.

They're not changing anything about *Store* TP, just *Save* TP.

[Churchill]

CureIV from my mule would be either (depending on formula): 820HP or 750HP

It does allow for PLD to cure for a lot more though, potentially in the range of 600s

[Darkmagi]

Yay for cure change at least. Pissed about the save tp, but oh well.

[Churchill]

SaveTP shouldn't effect anything though as you are always running with Miser's for VW.

It does potentially make Miser's a null roll outside of VW though.

[Darkmagi]

You still lose a huge amount of tp per ws with the changes though, not going to be able to ws>ws quite so much anymore.

[Churchill]

Case
20 save TP, in the case of TP 25 Weapon skill by saving the value of TP: 25TP
20 save TP, in the case of TP 15 by Weapon skill save the value of TP: 20TP
20 save TP, misses the case of (TP0) Weapon skill will save the value of TP: 20TP

What I read:
20 SvTP, your WS returns 25TP and you retain the value of your WS return
20 SvTP, your WS returns 15TP and you retain the value for your SvTP
20 SvTP, you miss your WS and you retain the value of your SvTP

20SvTP+Miser's usually equals 40-45SvTP

40-45 SvTP, no WS returns this so you retain the value of 40-45SvTP

You are losing 20ish TP per WS, that's still enough to spam.

[Fwahm]

Not everyone goes with a COR every time, especially when running lower numbers of people on lower tiers.

[Selamis]

What I read:
20 SvTP, your WS returns 25TP and you retain the value of your WS return
20 SvTP, your WS returns 15TP and you retain the value for your SvTP
20 SvTP, you miss your WS and you retain the value of your SvTP

20SvTP+Miser's usually equals 40-45SvTP

40-45 SvTP, no WS returns this so you retain the value of 40-45SvTP

You are losing 20ish TP per WS, that's still enough to spam.

So this only applies to voidwatch then, mostly?

[Byrthnoth]

Cure IV would give about 42 MP back to a white mage and heal 840+ HP? I guess WHMs are still the only healer?

[Churchill]

Yeah, definitely need to build a little more -emnity oriented set but CureIV spam from Jeff should be pretty legit.

[Foldypaws]

So this only applies to voidwatch then, mostly?

No, it also makes Miser's Roll worthless outside of voidwatch. Which pisses me off, as it wasn't breaking anything there.

[Selamis]

No, it also makes Miser's Roll worthless outside of voidwatch. Which pisses me off, as it wasn't breaking anything there.

Ah ok, gotcha. Yea I noticed last weekend when my ls and I were doing some Zelus Tiara runs, our Cor was giving us Miser's Roll and it was nice as hell to be spamming tp that fast. Man, that sucks then with the changes to it. Thanks for clarifying that for me.

[Slycer]

No, it also makes Miser's Roll worthless outside of voidwatch. Which pisses me off, as it wasn't breaking anything there.

Agreed, they will have to boost Miser's Roll numbers to compensate for this change in order to make it worth anything. It already caps your Save TP inside Voidwatch with Discipline, so boosting it won't really break anything.