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    o Adjustment on the Cost
    The cost to participate in Legion will be double in the case players participate in a 36-person version, but looking at the loot, this ratio does not fit so we are considering cutting the cost to half of the current cost to balance out the difference in the number of participants.
    You don't say? Overpaying for years for entrance to an event and then not getting desired loot for effort and time spent? Color me shocked. Sarcasm aside, I'd be all for doing Legion more if it was cheaper. Lotta gil currently spent to go in and have a really good chance of wiping.

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    Ultima and Omega at the same time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Ultima and Omega at the same time!
    but you can only bring in 12 people and 4 of the players must be Puppetmasters because each of the separate automaton bodies locks a different instant-wipe move and to fit in the whole Mechina style of ultima/omega.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genosync View Post
    but you can only bring in 12 people and 4 of the players must be Puppetmasters because each of the separate automaton bodies locks a different instant-wipe move and to fit in the whole Mechina style of ultima/omega.
    When SE implements this, I'm coming for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    I'm pretty excited about Neo-Limbus, if they do it right.
    Limbus is/was certainly my favorite event added to FFXI. The time commitment per run was just right, the battlefields were all unique from one another but with a thread of consistency as well, and the progression was there, too (even though Ultima took longer to get pops for, which I never really understood seeing as you can get even more chips from Omega himself). Plus the rewards were good and there were a ton of them (AF+1, ABC items, U/O armor).

    I can't imagine the update being on the same scale as the original Limbus, but I'm hoping it is.

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    Hope they learned from Apollyon/Temenos and just split the mage/melee gear set across both the NMs.....and have same # of runs to get to each boss.

    Can't wait to see them reuse the same zones with a different set of mobs loaded though, and do nothing to instance the zone so people can enjoy the experience of being cockblocked for 10-30min again.

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    o Difference in the Amount of HP
    The only difference in the difficulty for the 18-person version and the 36-person version is the amount of the monster's HP. For the 36-person, the monster's HP will increase by 50% compared to the 18-person. However, considering players’ attack capability, the group of 36 will have double the power compared to the group of 18 and the amount of the monster's HP is not balanced properly based on this ratio.
    To balance the ratio, we are considering lowering the monster's HP for the 18-person version to be half the amount of the 36-person version.
    Anyone else find this interesting, and a bit logically flawed? This is basically a 0 tank, 0 holding party strategy. Otherwise, these would be consistent regardless of 18 or 36, and it would be an effective increase of 150% in potential damage output from 18 to 36 (assuming 1 pt dedicated towards tanking/holding, 12 -> 30 DPS). Even with a 25% reduction of HP for the 18 man, that still greatly favors the 36 for completion, assuming 1 tank party.

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    I think that was intentionally done, not that they miscalculated.

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    after my one and only run (pickup, i know -.-) legion is not OMGWTFBBQ hard, but people have turned stupid, nobody standing on paws of the jormy mob, and war voking it from behind

    so yeah, suck less

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate
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    Starting this wonderful Wednesday off with a BUMP~!

    Just wanted to let you all know that the development team is currently working on reducing the time period between creating AF+1 items. They are of course working on other things as well, but expect to make the adjustments somewhere around May to June.

    As for the adjustment itself, the plan is to reduce the time from every conquest tally to one Earth day.


    Well that only took over three years of community bickering to get done...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surealistic View Post
    after my one and only run (pickup, i know -.-) legion is not OMGWTFBBQ hard, but people have turned stupid, nobody standing on paws of the jormy mob, and war voking it from behind

    so yeah, suck less
    turned implies that this is a new state. pickup parties have never been known for the highest quality players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth View Post
    Hmm so new legion items become buyable by winning legion chambers? So anyone with 3 chamber clears check the npc for new items to buy?
    By clears they mean actually finishing the Paramount mobs which no one has reported doing. Honestly they should just patch in the complete list so people can see what this event is made of to drum up some demand.

    As it stands Legion is big on promising challenge but without the sufficient loot to back it up very few fucks will be given across the base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surealistic View Post
    after my one and only run (pickup, i know -.-) legion is not OMGWTFBBQ hard, but people have turned stupid, nobody standing on paws of the jormy mob, and war voking it from behind

    so yeah, suck less
    This x1000. I realize many people might not have fought wyrms Pre abyssea, but flailing the vw tiamat mob multiple times, all the while people shout at you to stop smacking it on the ass, not standing on the paws, etc makes me cry when I think about doing clears on mules.

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    I'd rather flail it with fanatics on during zerg than deal with the terror. Most pick ups probably couldn't proc fast enough for that anyway though.

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    I have a hard time swallowing that people still don't know not to hit a Wyrm from behind.

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    I blame the manner in which SE incorporated noobs into wyrm fights. The most demonstrative Wyrm fights are Azdaja and post-75 cap Fafnir where Spike flail is not a problematic (And in some cases, a desired) outcome.

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    For the love of god, someone find the "It's on" video that Zigma did. This shit is not a post-75 thing.

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    To be fair how many wyrms would you run into if you weren't relatively hardcore back @75?

    It's not even that hard if people aren't completely herp a derp stupid. We're fighting wyrms? Stay on the legs if you plan to take hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    To be fair how many wyrms would you run into if you weren't relatively hardcore back @75?

    It's not even that hard if people aren't completely herp a derp stupid. We're fighting wyrms? Stay on the legs if you plan to take hate.
    And this is exactly why someone has to find that video Zigma made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    For the love of god, someone find the "It's on" video that Zigma did. This shit is not a post-75 thing.
    You mean this video?

    http://zigmals.com/video.wmv

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