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[Lordender]

Lol have to agree about the social networking being frenzied to retarded levels. People addicted to texting and facebook status updates are hilarious and flat out are dangerous. I went to the mall the other day and saw like 10 people who almost walked into people, vendor carts, pillars because they're glued to their phones while walking. I spoke to someone who is an MMOgamer last night who said they have caused wipes in WoW raiding because they got too caught up in texting during raids.

I walk 6-7 miles 5 to 6 times a week and I've been almost hit by people texting over two dozen of times because they're parked and push the gas pedal before looking to see if someone is passing infront of their car. If one of those bastards hit me I'm going to yank them out of their car after I punch the side window out and grab them.

As for FFXI, I didn't mind helping random people out for BS stuff but when it got down to business I only played with people I liked. When it came down to the business of the game events only those in my LS mattered. 90% of the time I don't interact with most people unless I have a reason to, whatever the reason is in the event that I MUST interact with someone outside of close friends then lets get it done, be respectful to each other and be on our merry way after unless the experience is a good one.

[Yugl]

Everyone (Read: Many) thinks they're House and therefore, cool/right.

[Septimus]

It's all about getting attention and trying to voice your opinions as loudly as possible in a world completely inundated with other people doing the same thing, resulting in an overwhelming cacophony of vapidities that has crescendoed to frenzied levels since the advent of social networking.

Stop reading my fucking mind.

[Tarage]

How bout that FFXI.

[Genosync]

Going to put this out there and then get back to work.


Everyone complaining about how Abyssea ended up killing alliance-style play obviously approached Abyssea wrong.


1. If you're in Abyssea as a linkshell, you're probably working on weapons. Anything else is not worth the linkshell as a whole's time.
2. Break people into separate groups. 18 people trying to do one thing at a time is obviously stupid unless it's cleaving for KIs where everyone just AFKs anyway.
3. Figure out a way to finish two weapons in to 85 in 4 days. Typically involves working up two weapons in the same zone from the two different NMs at the same time.
4. Figure out a way to finish one lv90 upgrade in a day.
5. Do more than just Abyssea as long as interest is shown.

I was in Exodus for a while and this was basically the solution that kept things running. If your LS couldn't adapt, you have no one to blame but yourself. Abyssea didn't kill the game or alliance/linkshell style play.

That being said, Voidwatch is still a miserable failure and due to the way it was setup, created yet another group departure of people from the game.

[Slycer]

How bout that FFXI.

Trackin' those devs, and stuff.

Probably nothing going on until next week, latter half of this week were national holidays in Japan. Not that anyone probably cares, but they picked up a new recruit for the English-speaking community team. I'm sure he's gone through similar brainwashing and vocabulary erasure as the rest of them so we probably won't even notice.

[ringthree]

Nope. The people of this generation's usual modus operandi is to try and make themselves look as interesting as possible to as many people as possible and calculate their self-worth accordingly. It's all about getting attention and trying to voice your opinions as loudly as possible in a world completely inundated with other people doing the same thing, resulting in an overwhelming cacophony of vapidities that has crescendoed to frenzied levels since the advent of social networking.

I don't see how choosing not to participate in social networking either online or off and instead sticking with close friends whilst still being pleasant to other people around you - i.e. not an asshole - can be seen as anything other than antithetical to the typical conduct of the internet generation.

What, you mean like posting your self-important opinion of the failings of your own generation that you are somehow capable of avoiding?

I don't know if you know what narcissistic means...

[ringthree]

Going to put this out there and then get back to work.


Everyone complaining about how Abyssea ended up killing alliance-style play obviously approached Abyssea wrong.


1. If you're in Abyssea as a linkshell, you're probably working on weapons. Anything else is not worth the linkshell as a whole's time.
2. Break people into separate groups. 18 people trying to do one thing at a time is obviously stupid unless it's cleaving for KIs where everyone just AFKs anyway.
3. Figure out a way to finish two weapons in to 85 in 4 days. Typically involves working up two weapons in the same zone from the two different NMs at the same time.
4. Figure out a way to finish one lv90 upgrade in a day.
5. Do more than just Abyssea as long as interest is shown.

I was in Exodus for a while and this was basically the solution that kept things running. If your LS couldn't adapt, you have no one to blame but yourself. Abyssea didn't kill the game or alliance/linkshell style play.

That being said, Voidwatch is still a miserable failure and due to the way it was setup, created yet another group departure of people from the game.

This is the way we did it. We got a ton of stuff done and we also wasted a lot fewer upgrade items for armor and weapons.

[drwaffles]

What, you mean like posting your self-important opinion of the failings of your own generation that you are somehow capable of avoiding?

I don't know if you know what narcissistic means...

Just because I don't like most people or the way in which they operate doesn't mean I necessarily think I'm 'better' than them (that assessment is subjective anyway), I just do what works for me because I don't fancy the alternatives. I'm a human being with deep flaws, same as everyone else. I don't see what's narcissistic about expressing my dislike of the way a lot of young people base their self-worth on the amount of attention they get and how social media perpetuates that kind of attitude. If you want to infer from that that I consider myself to be morally and intellectually superior to everyone else then go ahead, that's your problem. Even if I did think that, it wouldn't really be hypocritical anyway - 'narcissistic' in the sense that I used it refers not to people thinking they're better than others, but to people being completely obsessed with presenting a certain image of themselves and believing that every single banal thought or occurrence in their lives is worth sharing with hundreds or even thousands of people with whom they have virtually no meaningful connection. If you want to get semantic about it, 'narcissistic' probably isn't the correct term. Point is, you don't really have a point.


P.S. FFXI forums are the only places that I ever express my opinions publicly, and as I've gotten a bit older and become more cohesive in my thinking I've posted less and less. I'm also not nearly as much of a needless asshole as I used to be.

[scaevola]

P.S. FFXI forums are the only places that I ever express my opinions publicly, and as I've gotten a bit older and become more cohesive in my thinking I've posted less and less. I'm also not nearly as much of a needless asshole as I used to be.

Maybe if you practice this whole not being a needless asshole thing some more, you won't find your interactions with others so disappointing?

[Genosync]

This is the way we did it. We got a ton of stuff done and we also wasted a lot fewer upgrade items for armor and weapons.

professor ringthree always knows what's up.

[drwaffles]

Maybe if you practice this whole not being a needless asshole thing some more, you won't find your interactions with others so disappointing?

Except I'm not an asshole to people in real life, keep up. How someone conducts themselves on an internet forum is almost never representative of what they're actually like.

[NynJa]

Abyssea didnt kill your linkshell, your linkshell killed its linkshell. There was nothing stopping your LS from breaking down into individual groups of friends while retaining the linkpearl. Its not like you need a new LS just to talk to the 3 people you're always partied with.

[scaevola]

Except I'm not an asshole to people in real life, keep up. How someone conducts themselves on an internet forum is almost never representative of what they're actually like.

The only information you have given us about how you conduct yourself in real life is that you find it difficult to deal with your peers.

[Draylo]

Abyssea didnt kill your linkshell, your linkshell killed its linkshell. There was nothing stopping your LS from breaking down into individual groups of friends while retaining the linkpearl. Its not like you need a new LS just to talk to the 3 people you're always partied with.

It did hurt big linkshells. Why would someone sit through 17 other peoples emp weapons, when they can just take 2 others and trio all three long before the 17 finish. Apply that to every Abyssea item and that is what happened. If you mean "social" shells, that that isn't what most are referring to with "big linkshells", which are primarily event based.

[NynJa]

Can someone explain my post to #1BLUUNDISPUTE so i dont do it and get myself banned because its full of explitives, insults and derogatory remarkarks towards him.

Thank you

[drwaffles]

The only information you have given us about how you conduct yourself in real life is that you find it difficult to deal with your peers.

Either you find my position offensive and are therefore intentionally twisting(/omitting) my words or you're just not very smart and haven't managed to comprehend what I said, which is it?

Nowhere did I even imply that I find it 'difficult' to interact with my peers; I just find that it's usually kind of boring or annoying or a combination of the two, and the vast majority of the time it serves no real purpose when you consider that you'll never be particularly close to 99% of the people you talk to. I'm pleasant and conscientious towards everyone that I happen to end up talking to because the basis of my own personal morality is that you should treat others the way you'd like to be treated. The anonymous, shout-into-a-cave nature of the internet fosters a completely different attitude in terms of how people interact, and if you don't realise there's a very obvious lack of correlation between how people conduct themselves on the internet and the way they behave in their real lives then you're clearly not very observant.

/nonFFXIdiscussionoff: NynJa, you're so wrong.

There was nothing stopping your LS from breaking down into individual groups of friends

Like Draylo said, the dominance of large-scale events requiring lots of bodies was exactly the thing that stopped big shells from disintegrating. You're right in saying that these shells were already completely socially fragmented, but the glue holding them together was the fact that you needed the cooperation of more than a handful other players in order get the gear you wanted from kings, Einherjar, Dynamis, etc. in a timely fashion.

[NynJa]

and yet there was nothing stopping anyone from going "hey, doing xyz, who wants to leech"...or "/l hey JoeBlo, just got in from work, wanna hit up Attohwa?" while 1/5 of your LS is jerking it in dynamis, 1/5 is in Uleguerand, and the other 3/5 are in Tahrongi leeching xp / holding glav/chloris pop items.

Once again, your linkshell broke your linkshell. If your linkshell fell apart, does that mean you went without a linkshell for the past year?

[Draylo]

Big linkshells, so scheduled events the old era HNM/End game linkshells. Jesus christ, stop posting.

[NynJa]

Funny cuz my ls is still fine, lullaby is still fine, ringthrees ls seemed to adapt perfectly