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[Slycer]

Follows up with a lot of posts that events such as Crystal Dragon, Neo-Nyzul, Legion, and ADL be adjusted before Embrava and Perfect Defense are adjusted. They don't seem to mind nerfs to these 2hours as long as the events that pretty much demand use of them are adjusted to allow winning without them.

Yeah, it's really a necessary evil. Perfect Defense and Embrava are quite literally the antithesis of balance. There's nothing they can reasonably add to other jobs (aside from identical buffs) that would have the same usefulness as those two abilities in particular. I totally agree with nerfing them, as long as the content that essentially requires them, especially Legion, is adjusted.

[Byrthnoth]

Nerfing embrava? Get your NI gear while you can! Did they say they are making these 2-hours independent of each other and potentially reducing their recast to 30 minutes?

[Yugl]

Yes.

[Toth]

Not just the new ones but the old ones as well. They have finally realized that the speed of combat has changed!

[Kaisha]

Not just the new ones but the old ones as well. They have finally realized that the speed of combat has changed!

Which is why they're going to balance it back to two hour fights, rather than '2hr' fights.

[Byrthnoth]

To be fair, 2-hour abilities had pretty limited utility at every stage of the game. If they're half-hour abilities, that's a "I can use it every time we do a hard BCNM" recast time.

I eagerly await the anticipated nerfs that accompany lowering the recasts of these abilities. Now the Wild Card is going to be substantially less important, do you think there's a chance SE will make COR's secondary 2-hour more useful?

[Yugl]

Tbh, not much content lets you take advantage of 30min timers that a 2hr timer does not thanks to MMM mazes. The only benefit is probably Dynamis since that's the only place you will spend the 30min post-ability use and have enough time to gain additional benefits.

[Byrthnoth]

Well, a 30 minute timer has pretty large implications for Soul Voice and the new COR 2-hour, eh?
Carn, AF3 neck, AF3+2 body : +70%
Song +5 : +50%
Troub : +100%
Those are something like 8 minute and 48 second songs? SV lasts for 3 minutes, so call it ~10 minutes of SV songs out of every half hour (and ~9 minutes of a Marcato song)?


Still, lowering the recast of 2-hours would make BCs that require 2-hours much more viable. Waiting half an hour per run is reasonable. Waiting 2 hours is not. If they nerf Perfect Defense, Legion is going to get a lot harder though.

This will also make me much more willing to blow my DNC 2-hour on a lulzy damage boost instead of saving it on the offchance that I'll be playing a more useful job in the near future.

[Slycer]

I eagerly await the anticipated nerfs that accompany lowering the recasts of these abilities. Now the Wild Card is going to be substantially less important, do you think there's a chance SE will make COR's secondary 2-hour more useful?

If the recast timer were lowered to 30 minutes, you would pretty much be able to keep up three rolls 50% of the time or more without having to worry too much about busting, so that alone would be enough improvement to make it significantly more useful. One thing they could do not to make it more useful, but to make it more usable, would be to reduce the Phantom Roll recast timer while Three to One is active, similar to what an 11 roll does, since it would otherwise take a single COR much longer to get rolls up on one party while waiting on the recast timers.

Edit: for dumb, forgot that they were eliminating shared timers.

[NynJa]

Nerfing embrava? Get your NI gear while you can! Did they say they are making these 2-hours independent of each other and potentially reducing their recast to 30 minutes?

He also mentioned potentially adjusting events that require PD/Embrava to not require them though?

unless diasetsu trollin lol

[Slycer]

He also mentioned potentially adjusting events that require PD/Embrava to not require them though?

I have no idea where this was mentioned. diasetsu touched on that above, but if this was posted, it never showed up on Dev Tracker (unless it was weeks ago before I was following the JP tracker posts as well).

[Slycer]

One idea which wouldn't totally throw the whole "choose one or the other" concept out the window would be to lower the recast timer of the new and old SPs to 60 minutes each, and add a new job-specific merit category to each job that allows the reduction of each individual SP ability timer in 6 minute increments, up to five times total in the category. So you could choose to merit one or the other all the way down to 30 minutes, or have them both somewhere between 30 and 60. It would be easier than them overhauling all of the abilities because for some jobs it would be kind of broken to have both of the SPs on 30 minute timers (SAM, for instance).

[diasetsu]

He also mentioned potentially adjusting events that require PD/Embrava to not require them though?

unless diasetsu trollin lol

He didn't mention it. Sorry, the "followed by posts" may me misconstrued. The posts following Matsui's were in reference to the JP players asking that events be adjusted if PD and Embrava were to be nerfed.

[pchan]

Follows up with a lot of posts that events such as Crystal Dragon, Neo-Nyzul, Legion, and ADL be adjusted before Embrava and Perfect Defense are adjusted. They don't seem to mind nerfs to these 2hours as long as the events that pretty much demand use of them are adjusted to allow winning without them.

They better ajust ADL if they nerf perfect defense because this guy is unkillable otherwise. All his aoe abilities basically wipes anyone but monks, and if you survive you have silence and paralyze. If he does it when he splits, it kills everyone because it's x2.

[Toth]

You can do legion without PD (several ls just use it for Ironclad, and our shell is just starting to master strategies where it is not AS necessary). Embrava still has so many uses though so I hope the Nerf for that would not be as extreme (maybe the duration will be decreased by half)?

But anyway, these changes will help a lot of those questionable new 2 hrs.

[Slycer]

You can do legion without PD (several ls just use it for Ironclad, and our shell is just starting to master strategies where it is not AS necessary). Embrava still has so many uses though so I hope the Nerf for that would not be as extreme (maybe the duration will be decreased by half)?

But anyway, these changes will help a lot of those questionable new 2 hrs.

I think a nerf to Embrava would have to be more fundamental than just duration. I'm thinking they'd reduce the haste to something much more reasonable like 15% cap (right now it scales up like crazy to 34% at 500 enhancing, meaning you only need Embrava+Haste to cap magical haste), which wouldn't eliminate the importance of marches. I can't remember the last time I've done an event where bards have needed to cast march, because of embrava. I'm guessing they'd nerf the regain and regen a bit also, but the haste is probably the biggest "wtfhax" part of it.

[Chamaan]

Man. Don't have to waste MS to use Formless Axes? Down to a half hour recast? I withdraw my complaints if this isn't some beautiful dream. Also I STILL need NeoNyzul gear. Better get it on my Scholar before the Debravaning commences. Stupid goddamned game. ;_;

[Taim Meich]

The Embrava nerf, I was seeing it coming, although maybe not so soon. Totally reasonable, but makes me thinking about how little time I abused it... Maybe it's time to return and squeeze it a bit before it's nerfed? Hahaha. In any case, Matsui is making some VERY serious effort to look like a completely awesome producer. All the things he's said so far are reasonable and expected from someone who understand and cares about the game.

[Slycer]

In case anyone cares, someone on the German forum asked if they had any plans to upgrade Nocturnus Mail/Helm with augments and they shot that down pretty quickly. I can't imagine that anyone thought they would ever upgrade those, but yeah, just confirming.

[mdkuser]

Someone should make a picture "I want to believe" with a half- face of tanaka and half face of Matsui like they did for FF14 when Yoshi came in charge lol. So the countless complaints about embrav and perfect defense requirements to kill shit, voidwatch fantatics/fools spam, reached him ... Good start.

This guy knows what balance means.

Maybe Neo-salvage will not be another PD embrava spammign event.