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[arus2001]

Neo Nyzul, all deleveled to 1, naked, and no equipment. Get to floor 100.


Blame whoever reminded me of Lufia and the Ancient Cave.

[Ansems]

Oh cool, I have floor 100.

[Midnightjade]

I imagine it may help people build nyzul tokens for mythic requirements.

I still have around 100k nyzul tokens, not done Nyzul in years and no plans to do it atm. Will be nice if they introduce some way to use them up, or make them relevant again.

[Byrthnoth]

I've been duoing (+2 mules) NI 91-99 lately for tokens. We get about 3k per tag. It's really not that hard to get tokens as it currently stands, but it would be nice to be able to do it productively. I'll probably move my focus to the unique assaults for a bit, though I don't anticipate this update will come in time to help me at all.

[MaachaQ]

Oh cool, I have floor 100.

I got floor 100 back when discs got wiped if you didn't warp out before the boss died >.> Did the full 1-100 climb several times back in the day...

[Snprphnx]

Long as it doesn't end up like Nyzul v1 where people only spam only HNM floors or fl100 for a weapon.

i know several people would farm floors 21-40 for Eastern Shadow, at a chance at Vali's Bow back when it was 5mil+. they would usually see ES 2-3 times per run. think they actually sold some of them at one point, by inviting ppl to pt if the ??? changed over

[Cesaria]

i know several people would farm floors 21-40 for Eastern Shadow, at a chance at Vali's Bow back when it was 5mil+. they would usually see ES 2-3 times per run. think they actually sold some of them at one point, by inviting ppl to pt if the ??? changed over

We got at least 2 V.Bows for people outta Nyzul - beats camping that fucker.

[Septimus]

Poor Camate. I still love and respect you dude.

Alrighty everyone, as I mentioned earlier I submitted your feedback to the development team and got a response from them.

Their idea and the current specifications are set so that you are guaranteed a reward by receiving a personal treasure chest, but getting exactly what you want each time is a difficult request.

They also commented that changing this to a lotting system is fine; however, since Walk of Echoes is a non-reserve system, you are playing with a maximum of 36 characters at the same time and if everyone single person says they want a specific item, you might not receive a reward at all. The development team wants to make sure you are okay with that.

Just to be clear, I understand exactly what you are asking for in terms of a reward system. I will be re-submitting feedback with your suggestions again and see if I can make this a bit clearer for the development team. Give me a bit of time and I will try and get a response.

And some one made a suggestion that would make the Walk of Echoes fun and rewarding:

I am going to offer one of my crazy suggestions here.

How about if you get over a certain amount of XP (I haven't done WoE, so I cannot gauge this to give a specific number, I am not sure if 4,000 would be adequate) you are guaranteed one random coin drop. If you get over a certain amount of XP that is higher, you are guaranteed a Silver Mirror or a Devious Die. If you get over a certain amount of XP that is very high you are guaranteed a Heavy Metal Plate.

And of course you can get more than one of any of those items in a pool, but at least people will walk out of there feeling rewarded. And I like the idea of converting the coins. Put Shemo's and Shami's father someplace in the past where he can store coins and exchange them, a 3 : 1 ratio seems fair. Also exchange coins for Devious Die or Silver Mirrors at a higher ratio, maybe 10 : 1. Then Heavy Metal Plates at a higher ratio, perhaps 20 : 1. And maybe some gear or scrolls for higher amounts of coins. Suddenly you have a happy playerbase that feels like it is working towards something instead of throwing out lame crafting materials.

That guy for President of FFXI!

[Indalecia]

SE: Thats a great idea, but we aren't gonna implement it. Uhhh...ps2 limitations. Oh but here's some RDM JSE. ENJOYYYY

[Toth]

Poor Camate. I still love and respect you dude.





And some one made a suggestion that would make the Walk of Echoes fun and rewarding:



That guy for President of FFXI!

Nice idea Septimus. That really is the best medium imho.

[Yugl]

Consider two points, whether they change your idea or not:
- The XP skew favors DDs
- The slots taken by a 100% Coin/Mirror/Heavy Plate means you have 1-2 slots devoted to scrolls; whether this is satiable will depend on your personal interests (Some are just going for scrolls, though that should diminish over time)

[Septimus]

Consider two points, whether they change your idea or not:
- The XP skew favors DDs
- The slots taken by a 100% Coin/Mirror/Heavy Plate means you have 1-2 slots devoted to scrolls; whether this is satiable will depend on your personal interests (Some are just going for scrolls, though that should diminish over time)

Personally, I think people would be thrilled to get anything out of the process. Have the slots devoted to coins/mirrors/plates take the place of trash crafting materials. I don't think that anyone would be sad to see revival tree roots replaced by heavy metal plates. Keep another few slots open for trash and scrolls.

They could always make it so that different jobs have different thresholds. A BRD will not make as many points as a PLD, so reward them differently. (Or just increase the points that a BRD gets for acting like a BRD.)

[Julian]

In before people start going smn/brd (or just anything/brd) to raise their exp.

And that idea proposes some kind of point system, so you would eventually be able to trade all those coins you don't want for a scroll of your choice.

I like the idea, but, if they're going to do that, they might as well just throw on a point system and make the loot system pointless. <_<

[Kaisha]

Just add a damn points system like Einherjar's ichor so you can buy specific coins/upgrade items with. There, problem solved without having people abuse that XP system Sept mentioned.

[Gwynplaine]

Just add a damn points system like Einherjar's ichor so you can buy specific coins/upgrade items with. There, problem solved without having people abuse that XP system Sept mentioned.

The answer to all endgame drop bullshit. And the solution to R.N.G.

[Yugl]

But then how would we get drama over drops?

[Septimus]

But then how would we get drama over drops?

Don't worry. People will find a way.

[Fievel]

The internet always finds a way.

[TummieGaruda]

Personally, I think people would be thrilled to get anything out of the process. Have the slots devoted to coins/mirrors/plates take the place of trash crafting materials. I don't think that anyone would be sad to see revival tree roots replaced by heavy metal plates. Keep another few slots open for trash and scrolls.

They could always make it so that different jobs have different thresholds. A BRD will not make as many points as a PLD, so reward them differently. (Or just increase the points that a BRD gets for acting like a BRD.)

It's a tricky situation to balance properly. Since WoE is an open system, SE had to put evaluations in place to attempt to balance things out. This prevents a player from sitting in the corner doing nothing and getting free rewards like in the past where you could walk in and free lot any coins you wanted without participation. You could make a minimum exp amount threshold that needs to be crossed in order to get a chest, however, people will find ways to reach that threshold via spamming self buffs or get in a dummy pt and buff the whole party for quick points. Of course you could change how buffs reward points but then you'd end up hurting those jobs which rely on buffs such as BRD to help gain points for a favorable evaluation.

I think in all honesty, SE should have just instanced WoE with 4 copy battlefields and adjusted the difficulty to 18 man alliances where you can only enter when the leader examines the Conflux and once you enter it takes your medallion. Have a final chest at the end filled with scrolls, older equipment/abjurations, and USEFUL crafting items, and give everyone something like Voidsilver (Similar to Ichor) which can be exchanged for coins, mirrors, dice, plates, new equipment, and new abjurations. Also allow pouches to be obtained but at a higher value since it would be a gamble.

[Miroku_Asura]

A new merit group is a really good idea

Before we add a new system, we would like to revamp and make adjustments to the existing merit point categories and items, so “Merit Point Category 3” (name pending) would come after those things are completed.

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