Japan hit by powerful earthquake

[Eaglestrike]

The people talking about "if another <disaster, nuclear or natural> hits, it's over for Japan" what exactly is meant by that? The areas effected are gone forever (or close to it) or the entire country will be uninhabitable?

I'll be very pissed if we lose a significant portion of this country because of this stuff. Not only from a gaming/anime/manga perspective but some of the top robotic tech is from Japan, it'd be a HUGE loss. Of course, if we just gave them part of the midwest to live in, that'd be fucking win. We've got some land, bring them over!

[GentaiShinigami]

The people talking about "if another <disaster, nuclear or natural> hits, it's over for Japan" what exactly is meant by that? The areas effected are gone forever (or close to it) or the entire country will be uninhabitable?

I'll be very pissed if we lose a significant portion of this country because of this stuff. Not only from a gaming/anime/manga perspective but some of the top robotic tech is from Japan, it'd be a HUGE loss. Of course, if we just gave them part of the midwest to live in, that'd be fucking win. We've got some land, bring them over!

Just the economic effects of having another major catastrophe happening would be very hard for Japan to recover from. I mean whole towns are under water atm, and there is possibility of having contaminated areas that can't be used. If too much of that stuff goes on in such a small place then what can Japan do?

One of the dock places in Cali earlier said they sustained ~10mil in damage from the piddly (relatively) tidal wave they got not counting the damage to all the harbored boats. Imagine the cost of damage in Japan now.

[Maaglin]

The area most affected is a rural / agricultural area. The technological side of Japan is unaffected.

[GentaiShinigami]

The area most affected is a rural / agricultural area. The technological side of Japan is unaffected.

My real concern is that these buildings in the metropolis areas hold up. They are designed for this, but they've already taken two large quakes (7.2 > 8.9 although diminished inland), and are having literally hundreds of aftershocks a week. Over time even the best designs can be shaken apart.

Also, don't know if you keep up with the news Eaglestrike, but Tokyo governor Ishihara is bashing on otaku goods pretty hard (going as far as to say otaku have corrupted DNA lol), and the person running in the next election has vowed to ban violent games. Tokyo is the center of development of those goods so it's pretty much a country-wide ban in that case. That's neither here nor there atm though just wanted to make you aware of that. You can Google for tons of info on it as that's probably a bigger threat to anime/manga/games than this.

[GentaiShinigami]

Seeing this on another forum:

Japanese NuclearSafetyAuthority has confirmed #Fukushima nuclear power plant meltdown in the official reports ARD correspondent inTokyo

Waiting for a source/link to be posted at the moment.

[Maaglin]

The PM just addressed the media, he didn't say anything about the meltdown.

[GentaiShinigami]

The PM just addressed the media, he didn't say anything about the meltdown.

Yeah, I see that. Still waiting on the link. It's a twitter copy+pasta I'm guessig by the formatting, but no source atm. The PM has been pretty bad at giving proper information up to this point though.

[Maaglin]

It's his style.

[Maaglin]

It's his style.

[GentaiShinigami]

It's his style.

Lol. Needs the "Like a boss" picture.

Supposedly the UN is pressuring for some real information on the situation so we should be getting confirmation one way or another soon on things like the radiation levels.

[Dylon]

im watching one of the streams translated to english that were posted and i can confirm the plant did enter meltdown status, and i was talking to my friend earlier just speculating how much damage actually happened, i think its over a few trillion dollars in damage... seriously how are they supposed to recover from this? and theres going to be more after-shocks, this is crazy

and the stream im watching just confirmed the explosion was not from the reactor but was under the building

[GentaiShinigami]

im watching one of the streams translated to english that were posted and i can confirm the plant did enter meltdown status, and i was talking to my friend earlier just speculating how much damage actually happened, i think its over a few trillion dollars in damage... seriously how are they supposed to recover from this? and theres going to be more after-shocks, this is crazy

It's such a ridiculous amount of loss. Even being rural mostly still they lost a lot of infrastructure. I mean you saw an entire field of (probably) Honda cars get tossed around in a tidal wave that were meant to be exported. Trains tossed around, bridges gone, towns sunken, airports wasted, nuclear plants broken (very expensive) and on and on.

Usually this stuff happens in less developed areas, and the monetary/infrastructure damage isn't so severe.

[popsiclestix]

Kan and his top cabinet member explained that the Fukushima plant is safe. Surrounding the reactor was some hydrogen that blew. The inner container is still intact and no leakage of radiation. As a precautionary measure they decided to cool off the outer container with sea water and will use boric acid (for something). They claim that radiation levels have dropped since the explosion and that the extended range of the evacuation is the most extreme measure just in case. Meanwhile, there are still some tremors. There have been a couple 3 level earthquakes throughout the day (one just north east Chiba 15 minutes ago).

[Maaglin]

To say that a developed country such as Japan, coupled with the international support they will recieve, will not recover is ridiculous.

They already have recent experience, when Kobe (almost twice the size of Sendai) was hit with a large quake in 1995 where thousands of people died. I believe it was the most costly natural diaster to happen anywhere in the world at the time. Kobe was also a major shipping port for Japan, i.e., much more economically significant than Sendai and the surrounding area.

[GentaiShinigami]

Kan and his top cabinet member explained that the Fukushima plant is safe. Surrounding the reactor was some hydrogen that blew. The inner container is still intact and no leakage of radiation. As a precautionary measure they decided to cool off the outer container with sea water and will use boric acid (for something). They claim that radiation levels have dropped since the explosion and that the extended range of the evacuation is the most extreme measure just in case. Meanwhile, there are still some tremors. There have been a couple 3 level earthquakes throughout the day (one just north east Chiba 15 minutes ago).

Hmmm, if hydrogen is present though that means that melted core hit water doesn't it? The core is supposedly in confirmed meltdown, and with no second containment anymore only first containment is all that's keeping it from being in open air. While it may be contained atm there is a great risk of it melting it's way through first containment (especially with the weaker design) so not sure how reassuring that is.

I'm officially confused. The two stories don't line up at all.

[GentaiShinigami]

To say that a developed country such as Japan, coupled with the international support they will recieve, will not recover is ridiculous.

They already have recent experience, when Kobe (almost twice the size of Sendai) was hit with a large quake in 1995 where thousands of people died. I believe it was the most costly natural diaster to happen anywhere in the world at the time. Kobe was also a major shipping port for Japan, i.e., much more economically significant than Sendai and the surrounding area.

The speculative no recovery was if another ~9 magnitude quake hit in Japan (or some other catastrophe on top of current ones). I think Japan will recover fine as it is, but it's going to be very costly.

In other news I found a bitchin aggregate site! Pretty much every stream going on atm.

http://www.cpswire.com/live-video-streams.html

[Maaglin]

I just read that the quake shifted the earth on its axis by 4 inches and moved the coast of Japan 8 feet.

[GentaiShinigami]

I just read that the quake shifted the earth on its axis by 4 inches and moved the coast of Japan 8 feet.

Sped up the day by 1.6 microseconds (think that was right)!

I'm a bit bothered with them saying "the radiation went down after the blast" like its a good thing. That's obviously because it's no longer in second containment (whos main purpose is to contain said radiation XD)

[Maaglin]

Japan officials confirmed that the blast was hydrogeon and a small amount of cesium escaped, which leads them to assume at least partial meltdown of fuel rods has occured.

[Kaylia]

If the core isn't leaking, why are they increasing the exclusion zone and distributing iodine to people.

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Or it now?




Folllowing this events freaking suck. Bring back the giant wave of water...on fire. At least there was no conflicting information.