The Official Forums: BG Edition

[hey]

This whole business with Rambus (and others) reporting every single person that disagrees with them reminds me of Alla and their stupid rating system. I frequented the site when I first started FFXI and quickly noticed the way any disagreement with someone like that generally resulted in your post being rated sub-default not because it was wrong, or insulting, or even impolite, but because the retards there couldn't handle disagreement and finally had a tool to show their displeasure. For Rambus the report post button is just that. And the sad thing is, the mods fucking go with it, thus further inflating his sense of self-righteousness (which he couldn't spell if he tried).

It is not at all the same thing. Karma on alla means nothing more than the color of your name. On the official forums posts are being deleted for little reason. Alla's moderation is about on par with bg's.

[Aksannyi]

Bullshit. If you get rated low enough, none of your posts get shown, which is in essence the same as a ban or having your posts deleted by the moderators. Usually, having your post reported to the SE mods gets it deleted, which has the same effect as being rated into oblivion.

[Dooom]

Karma on alla means nothing more than the color of your name.

Which, unfortunately, matters more than the content of your posts.

[hey]

Bullshit. If you get rated low enough, none of your posts get shown, which is in essence the same as a ban or having your posts deleted by the moderators. Usually, having your post reported to the SE mods gets it deleted, which has the same effect as being rated into oblivion.

Only if you are too lazy to turn off the filter. And even if you leave it on for some reason, you can still see the posts, you just have to click a button to unhide it.

[Aksannyi]

Really? I don't remember that. I posted back in like 2005 though and left that site forever when IGE bought them and it became Zam. So maybe it was different then.

[hey]

No. Filtering posts below sub default has always been an option (via a drop down at the top of every page). In the past you could not show unrated posts, but getting that low required massive amounts of rate downs, so it was not much of an issue.gl

[Aksannyi]

Ah. I wonder how many people would actually want to view sub-default posts, though? Probably not many, as someone with a low rating probably isn't worth reading in the first place. At any rate, I never did like their style of ass-kissing and police yourself-ness.

[Korialstrasz]

Someone usually always ends up quoting sub default stuff though, so you're still stuck reading it sometimes. I like to see what people wrote anyways to get rated so low, otherwise it just ends up looking as if one person is talking to themselves.

[Mifaco]

Alla's rating system was great for the amount of butthurt it caused. Long ago I made a script to randomly select a rating from the drop-down box. I would go through every page and rate every single post randomly. It was awesome. However, people were bitching on Site Feedback about "karma campers" and I got norated as a result

As an aside, I love how "please ban starcade" is still prominent on the tag cloud. It's like a giant neon "bg wuz here" sign

[hey]

As an aside, I love how "please ban starcade" is still prominent on the tag cloud. It's like a giant neon "bg wuz here" sign

I tagged over 100 thread with it. It's there to stay.

Ah. I wonder how many people would actually want to view sub-default posts, though? Probably not many, as someone with a low rating probably isn't worth reading in the first place. At any rate, I never did like their style of ass-kissing and police yourself-ness.

Most people turn the filter off. All the best posts are sub default.

[Yugl]

I think Rambus is intentionally making illogical posts, so we could report it on the pretense that it is trolling and not contributing to the conversation. I'm not saying we should report it, but I'm not not saying we shouldn't people that intentionally make no sense for the purpose of aggravating posters.

That said:
My original post edited by the GM

Is there any reason why some threads are locked while others are deleted? <removed personal references> My personal theory is that the closed threads have good ideas, but need other people to shut up while the deleted threads were just bad to begin with. However, I would like to ask you (Moogles and GMs) what motivates you to pick one over the other.

This particular thread is going to be locked so that people reviewing the thread can see the Moderator's comment regarding the situation and why it was locked.

Den of Rancher: (Was) Locked
Wahhh Harassment Thread: Deleted

Coincidence?!

[Lyall]

you shouLd pOst Like, ranDOm letters iN caps to Get attention from the gmS.

[Aksannyi]

An dont fourget 2 mispel werds n arndomly abrev. sum things so noone but u cn undrstan it.

What's sad is that even this post makes more sense than the shit Rambus posts.

[Yugl]

I'll need to take a course on it first. What's that called again? Rambology?

[Aksannyi]

Rambology actually sounds cool, like RAMBO + logy, which would be rather badass. We wouldn't want him to think we think he's badass in any way, shape, or form.

The study of how Rambo kicks ass, basically. Rambupidity works though.

[Cail]

On official, does it list what server your on, like how BG does? (well the option). I'm curious what server these winners are on and if any Ifrit people and Odin (since we're being moved there in a week) are some of the more...infamous posters

[Aurara]

On official, does it list what server your on, like how BG does? (well the option). I'm curious what server these winners are on and if any Ifrit people and Odin (since we're being moved there in a week) are some of the more...infamous posters

I'll troll them with a quickness, got a head start on somebody who used to be on ifrit, BUT SHALL BE LEFT ANONYMOUS!(except by the people that know this person know im doin it lol.)

[Desideratum]

While I'll agree that many of the sub-default posts are the best ones at Alla, many aren't and quite frankly sorting through them was just as obnoxious as trying to find the good posts among the bad on the OForums. I realize that all karma was was the color of your name, but seriously, there was a concentrated effort by a lot of posters to do their best to (for many users) silence people whose opinions they disagreed with. Much like what Rambus and others are doing in this instance.

That's basically all I was saying.

[Korialstrasz]

Allas rating system is absolute shit. Aside from a select few posters (Tummie earned that guru, and for good reason), the system works something like this:

Guru: Posts lots of funny stuff/kisses lots of ass and built a ton of high karma at a low post count.
Sage: Also posts funny stuff/kisses ass but just didn't build karma as high at low post count.
Scholar: Pretty much neutral
Gray name: Open minded people that speak the truth, post factual information, etc.

Just tonight someone posted in general about how osama bin laden was finally killed. And they got rated down + thread locked. That's alla for ya.

[Yugl]

Just tonight someone posted in general about how osama bin laden was finally killed. And they got rated down + thread locked. That's alla for ya.

You expected different with a name like that?!