LVL 90 Solos

[Atoreis]

I can't imagine duo being possible, yet. BRD MNK MNK could probably do it with dual HF and SV minuets, maybe some meds JIC.

Well as for a time before first summon we easily did like 15 kirins with MNK/nin Veret WAR/sam Ukon Brd marches THF (just SA TA) and WHM. No 2hr is needed with just mnk and war with empyrean. Usually it took 90 sec about 60 with me, war or brd 2hr (not all at once).

Unless you did it brd mnk mnk Tsuko don't say it's good idea. With setup I did above WHM was constantly spamming cure even with me trying to keep shadows. It spams TP moves one by one (he swings less then it do TP moves) You are lucky if it casts quake. Most dangerous are great whirlwinds which do like 600-700 (I'm not sure if WHM gave us baraero which could help). I doubt replacing WAR with MNK would cut it's TP gain enough to BRD be able to keep up on curing. there is also AF which will make around 800 damage. Even if BRD would maybe somehow keep up on curing he would definitely ran out on mp. WHM MNK MNK is much safer bet. Lack of marches hurts but being in need to spam shadows especially :ichi hurts more. Idk how it would go without empyrean but WHM and 2x Veret MNK (or MNK replaced by other job with good empyrean or even non empyrean DRG for example or DNC, in fast DNC would be probably very good in pair with Veret or Ukon) can take it down before first summon.

I also took it down easily with WAR Ukon PLD Ochain+Almace BRD WHM THF (sa+ta). Once we killed it in the time of summon because WAR died at 80% and I needed to duo with THF (tho WAR thrown two Ukko's in while weakened which took good 10%).

I think Duo might be possible too. Very good SMN + for example good DNC could probably handle adds and Kirin. Summoner could take Suzaku and trigger CS with Leviathan. DNC could probably kill genbu and tank kirin at the same time, same for byakko, Ramuh stun is very potent too can probably easily stun Seiryu HF at start run away and in the time it will run to kill summon the run back to DNC it will lose all HF. Of course I never did it that way but it seems really possible.

[Tsuko_Asura]

'Cause "could probably do it" is pretty much synonymous with "a good idea would be to"

[Atoreis]

Ok ok ^^

I still think BRD mp pool and cure capabilities are to low and with WHM instead even if you wont kill before first pop one mnk can take add and fight/kill it or if suzaku just back tank it and give a moment for other mnk to finish Kirin.

[Kuwait-cafe]

Evasion tanked! poison was nasty, so i had to conserve tp for that!

Spoiler: show

[Mojo]

Level 90 doesn't magically make you take zero damage. Kirin without a respectable healer would likely end in tears.

[Atoreis]

Evasion tanked! poison was nasty, so i had to conserve tp for that!

Spoiler: show

Impressive and also so much love for Malacite in one day ( @ Final form thread )

[Raen Ryong]

Lamprey Lord is actually really easy if you have an AGI Sekka +2. I found recently doing it that my evasion rate was capped or damn close to wearing full offensive gear using Sekka+2/Kamome.

[Odin'sLaw]

Lamprey Lord is actually really easy if you have an AGI Sekka +2. I found recently doing it that my evasion rate was capped or damn close to wearing full offensive gear using Sekka+2/Kamome.

all well and good but isn't it a waste since LL has nothing to offer a nin soloer?

[Dooom]

It's one of the more annoying VNMs people have to do, finding out you can solo it for a buddy is pretty nice imo.

[Odin'sLaw]

It's one of the more annoying VNMs people have to do, finding out you can solo it for a buddy is pretty nice imo.

if your helping someone (hint malicite) then more power to you, now someone solo Shoggoth he's a real challenge

[Mojo]

I heard PUPs can solo Shoggoth without too much trouble

[Raen Ryong]

RDM can solo Shoggoth!

[Odin'sLaw]

I heard PUPs can solo Shoggoth without too much trouble

i'd say it was doable but it will literally spam sleep > nuke > sleep > nuke which can be hard to live through if your waiting on your JA's

[NynJa]

Shoggoth was a relatively easy 3box...after all the hype of how shitty it is, I was able to take it down MNK(no Vere since thats what I was killing it for) THF RDM. A good portion of chainspell nukes were lost to paralysis. Its probably easily doable DD+Mage as well, since I wasnt really using Nynja for much more than helping spread the aoe damage that got through.

[Mojo]

Well, trio is much easier than duo because of the hate reset crap. Two melees is a huge improvement over one. Try doing it just mage + melee and see how easy it seems. Also I have no idea about PUP or how they do Shoggoth, I just heard that it's possible.

[Syntex]

Where is the page on wiki talking about skill teirs and how they affect damage?

Someone also mentioned there is a site that explains it.

I want to know if the sea torque > gorget for WS. I hear it can go both ways based on skill teir and merits ect. but need to find out the math.

[Niiro]

Skill only effects DMG for H2H and it's

3 + (skill*.11) + weapon

[Syntex]

Well then assuming capped ACC which is better? The torque or the gorget for blade:hi? and by how much?

[Rocl]

what.

[Niiro]

Well then assuming capped ACC which is better? The torque or the gorget for blade:hi? and by how much?

The gorget most likely, all of these questions would better belong in what's better.