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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    You are very wrong sir.

    sub job gives barfire but PLD has native enhancing magic.

    103 from barfire and easy 160 in the equip. 263 should be really close resist it fully. With some work you can achieve 200+ in equip and 303 would be easily enough.
    With 323 barfire and 87% MDT (give or take with +2 body) i still get hit for 30 dmg in the air. The barfire actually doesn't matter tbh, I get hit for more dmg when I take off the MDT gear and put on fire resistance, so I just stick with full MDT/MDB set instead.

    I think before 25% you could stay alive /dnc, maybe, but after that with the 400 dmg crits unblocked you'd be in trouble.

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    about the Tiamat thing RUkenshin would like to say hi, if you use his barfire set without the staff ofcourse nin/dnc might be able to duo with a blm?

    for those who didn't follow his Journal
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNAval View Post
    about the Tiamat thing RUkenshin would like to say hi, if you use his barfire set without the staff ofcourse nin/dnc might be able to duo with a blm?

    for those who didn't follow his Journal
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    All cool but why +MND in MDT/MDB set
    I could understand optional MDT set vs BLM spells and stacking INT in it with capped MDT but +MND in main MDT set. Someone need to tell this guy MND only works vs WHM nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    All cool but why +MND in MDT/MDB set
    I could understand optional MDT set vs BLM spells and stacking INT in it with capped MDT but +MND in main MDT set. Someone need to tell this guy MND only works vs WHM nukes.
    It's a 5 year old LJ post.

    EDIT!

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    Don't need a fire set anymore, hell you really didn't even need it at 75 if your support was giving you 2x ballad in the air (assuming aegis pld).

    In the air now, my swap is full af3+2 for random absorbs as well as -94% mdt (to make sure creed curiass keeps me capped, as fluctuations in enmity while soloing seem to be frequent). With capped enhancing + enhancing merits + af1 legs + merciful cape Tiamats melees are 14-15 in the air, firaga is at most 30, inferno blast can still peak upwards of 50. The air is not the problem, the ground is. Mighty strikes is easily handled by reprisal and keeping sent in backup incase you suddenly get trucked to 50% hp. Tia can still hit for 300-450 unblocked crits np, however this is not the hard part. Absolute terror is so fucking random its unreal. Terror will last 30 seconds to 3 mins. Unlucky 3 min terror early on in landing = a very shitty chance of being alive when it flies.

    Ninja edit: too early in the morning to remember which sea cape does enhancing

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNAval View Post
    about the Tiamat thing RUkenshin would like to say hi, if you use his barfire set without the staff ofcourse nin/dnc might be able to duo with a blm?
    I've done Tiamat as duo NIN + RDM, he's a complete joke on probably NIN + any mage. We are talking about PLD solo not NIN duo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    You are very wrong sir.

    sub job gives barfire but PLD has native enhancing magic.

    103 from barfire and easy 160 in the equip. 263 should be really close resist it fully. With some work you can achieve 200+ in equip and 303 would be easily enough.
    How exactly was I wrong then? I never said PLD doesn't have enhancing magic. Keep trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalasin View Post
    How exactly was I wrong then? I never said PLD doesn't have enhancing magic. Keep trying.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalasin View Post
    You won't resist enough with the gear and barfire from your subjob to keep up with cures.
    "Barfire from subjob" implies that a PLD's barfire is somehow gimped. Considering a 90 PLD has more enhancing skill than a 75 WHM and PLD's were resisting just fine at 75 it's completely untrue.

    15 levels of natural magic evasion + higher innate enhancing magic than they were working with before and they're head and shoulders above a 75 WHM's barfire on a 75 PLD. In addition, a 90 PLD has access to more +enhancing skill gear than a 75 WHM.

    You were wrong.

    Edit: As for on the ground + terror, PLD can cap -PDT pretty easily, that + filling in DEF/VIT wherever else would go a long way in minimizing the risk. That said you can always get totally screwed on timing and duration so there's no fool proof counter for it.

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    If shield blocks can proc on spike flail, back tanking it might be the way to go (Horrid Roar seems like a huge hassle, even more than Terror.)

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    Tia can still one shot with flail or it would work. Roar is easy, really only have to rebuff pro/shell/phalanx. Flash and a ws or two (or cure kit cure or two in the air) and creed body would be >6% dt already so roar isn't an issue. I'll see what I can get terrored melees down to or just let it smack me with a terras staff a bit to see how much of an issue terror is, but I think 4 or 5 shells camp on fenrir so zzz competing for it.

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    Again, if shield can proc on flail then back tanking would still be better.

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    You can most definitely shield block spiked flail. Or it woulda kicked my ass when I solo'd fafnir. As an Ochain PLD, I'd much rather get flailed than terrored. And dispel is a waste of time/resources to deal with, not to mention irritating.

    Sadly, Spike Flail's knockback is not a blockable additional effect, so you'll get flung all over the place unless you can get your back to a wall with the wyrm tail towards you. A little tricky, but doable. Then, when it goes aerial you'd flip to the other side, putting the wyrm between you and the wall. That way when it lands you run through it and retake your previous tail tank position.

    Assuming I could keep control of positioning, and not agro a ton of shit, I'm not too worried about the ground phase. Tiamat's the same lvl as Jormy, and I never had an unblocked hit against him. Block rate vs Tia should be similar.

    All that's left is getting enough fire resist to keep aerial/nuke dmg at a reasonable level. Ochain pretty much ensures a near full MP pool every time she takes off, so I'd have plenty to cure with. I'd probly keep SS up during the aerial phase as well. The dmg taken to mp trade off is pretty bad with just ethereal. Unless the DMG is like, single digit, then I'd just let her feed me TP till she lands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demogorgon View Post
    Absolute terror is so fucking random its unreal. Terror will last 30 seconds to 3 mins. Unlucky 3 min terror early on in landing = a very shitty chance of being alive when it flies.
    Terror only lasts for a maximum of 60 seconds.
    But still that's a rather long period of unblocked hits, and could potentially get you killed. (Especially below 25%)

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    With Aegis you could reach 90% MDT quite easily which might even be floored after Phalanx is applied so I don't even think it's a question if you have both shields then.

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    I always thought PDT and MDT capped at 50%, was it changed to to 90% sometime during the last few months?

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    They do, they just made aegis go past the cap so it wouldn't be totally useless.

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    Ah alright, that makes sense then.

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    Slow fight without Almace :/
    Probably wouldn't even beat it's regen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renzy View Post
    Slow fight without Almace :/
    Probably wouldn't even beat it's regen
    I haven't fought worms in quite a bit, but macro into it when you see terror? Or is it too fast?

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