Comments from the Devs

[Draylo]

Just get rid of the terribad classes that are in the game now. Remake the armory system to just the jobs and no classes, like FFXI! There I fixed it.

[Kaiyoko]

How exactly would this make sense from a financial & logical standpoint? It is much easier to just redistribute skills only, and quite possibly eliminate some discrepancies in lore, seeing as by definition(dictionary) CON is the BLM type and THM is the WHM type.

Doing a complete switch of city states is an immense amount of work that I am more than willing to bet would never cross their minds to even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.

So you're saying text swapping is difficult lol? I guess you'd need to swap a few symbols as well.

Edit: Changing lore and what not would be a lot more work on their creative team. You can have low level employees change text files.

Edit 2: On top of that I'm assuming they store text data in localization files which tend to just contain dialogue. changing names from THM to COJ isn't hard. Their models are either loaded into the level through an editor or an XML or script file. Just changing which model is used is easy enough. Or they can just change weapons on the THMs and COJs in each of their respective guilds which is once again done through an editor or XML or script file.

[miokomioko]

Preexisting lore isn't going to change. Why is this even.

[Kaiyoko]

Preexisting lore isn't going to change. Why is this even.

You're right it isn't. I'm saying what I think they should do based on what they've said, its called an opinion.

Just get rid of the terribad classes that are in the game now. Remake the armory system to just the jobs and no classes, like FFXI! There I fixed it.

I'm more for this though : )

[Hyan]

Just get rid of the terribad classes that are in the game now. Remake the armory system to just the jobs and no classes, like FFXI! There I fixed it.

As long as there will never be Blue Mage, sure.

Seems that dengeki has some info this week again (already posted?)

1.20 will come during Fall, 1.21 during Winter. 1.21 will be the 2nd large (1.19 scale) patch while I guess 1.20 willl be more like 1.18.

[Waraji]

I too vote for no Blue Mage.

[Vuitton]

THM makes the best healers in terms of lore since their entire class is based around life and death. Conjurer's class is based entirely around elementals. The skill distributions are going to dump the heals and raises onto THM and enfeebles to CON.

[plue]

Considering the existing bard NPC in the game... based on his armor type and throwing knives, Archer > Bard makes the most sense.

If I end up being a BRD in another game... fml

I'd say Bard would be a more likely choice for the new jobs they are adding, seeing as how they don't have set roles yet?

[Gokulo]

I'd say Bard would be a more likely choice for the new jobs they are adding, seeing as how they don't have set roles yet?

It was mentioned as a job for the existing jobs, they're not adding new classes for a while yet.

[Lordender]

The class system is so bad in 14 that you're going to see people say "What? I didn't level this to be that!" We all know who is developing this "game" so when jobs come out in 1.20 or 1.21 theres going to be an accepted playstyle or gtfo in party play which means you better hope you're playing one of the "IN" jobs. Players at this point don't even know what they've leveled thus far especially with CON and THM being in limbo, one has to be a healer and the other has to be DD and whoever SE decides to make the healer is going to see epic raging from that crowd.

I knew people who leveled THM because they thought it was going to be the RDM of 14.
I knew people who leveled CON because they thought it was going to be the BLM of 14.

I think this is a bad situation thats going to go from bad to worse when they decide on what role between these two does what when these classes start evolving into the first set of jobs. I knew a lot of people who leveled the mage classes with the mind set that this was a DD not a healer vice versa.

[Elcura]

Even if it's only 1 job per class (right now), it still makes more sense for CON to go the WHM and BLM route, and for THM to go the RDM and ??? route. One can assume that 1 job isn't it, even if it is just a start. This kind of speculation never really leads anywhere, but I guess people find it fun to talk about.

[Sephiroth]

Why would CON get Raise II, Rebirth, Curaga and Curaga II if THM was going to be the healer? THM can't even AoE cure any more. Sure they could move those new skills to THM but I'm sure Yoshi already knew which jobs were going to which classes by the time 1.18 came around and those spells would have gone to THM if that was to be a WHM.

[Gadritan]

...I knew people who leveled THM because they thought it was going to be the RDM of 14.
I knew people who leveled CON because they thought it was going to be the BLM of 14...

...I knew a lot of people who leveled the mage classes with the mind set that this was a DD not a healer vice versa.

Eh. You can't really lvl just THM or just CNJ and be effective worth poop. Most people who have 1 at 50 have the other at least close or well on it's way.

[Hyan]

Cnj is whm, wtf people

Who gives a shit what these people do or did. I still hope Yoshida wipes the servers as the first thing come ps3 release.

[Corrderio]

Why would CON get Raise II, Rebirth, Curaga and Curaga II if THM was going to be the healer? THM can't even AoE cure any more. Sure they could move those new skills to THM but I'm sure Yoshi already knew which jobs were going to which classes by the time 1.18 came around and those spells would have gone to THM if that was to be a WHM.

Because before then CON was a crap class wasn't it?

[Sephiroth]

Because before then CON was a crap class wasn't it?

It was only crap because THM was over powered and anything a CON could cast a THM could cast better due to the way its AoE works. Now that THM was nerfed CON is ridiculously over powered. They both always were but if you had both at 50 there was no reason to use CON.

[Kurokikaze]

I still don't see your argument... you just went in a circle completely. lol

[Grey Jorildyn]

THM still maintains its superior casting mobility.

Stop and buff? Fuck that, just stay in front of me and keep running, you'll all get Stoneskin, no worries.

[Toth]

Maybe they are planning that once unlocked, any job can be taken regardless of initial class? they did say that new abilities will be added when taking a job and some would be taken away. Maybe you can become Marauder Blm, gain BLM spells, and become a dark knight. Gladiator BLM would be like a BLM focused RDM. Ditto with WHM.

I wonder then...maybe the BLM speciality would enhance elemental weaponskills?

[Spider-Dan]

It could be that BLM won't be the Final Fantasy black mage we're all used to. Not an elementalist, just an expert in the dark arts. In FFXI terms, a job with only dark and enfeebling magic plus more dark-elemental nukes. (Or umbral. Whatever.)

This class already exists; it's called Thaumaturge.