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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    Just because you're maximizing doesn't mean everyone else is. This just says if you wanna do this content you better be well geared for it. It also keeps old end-game content from going unused because as more people keep playing more people will need to progress and go through the motions.
    Who gives a shit what everyone else is doing, especially those who aren't even hardcore? This just says if you wanna do the content fuck you because you're not one of the big boys, clear the last content before moving on (because you can't just let everyone have at it, amirite? That's unheard of!)

    Most people agree that they don't want gear to become obsolete as fast as it does in other MMO's. If gear stays relevant longer old content won't become unused as fast either.

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    Gonna say it right now, call me troll or whatever, but after reading the above discussion I'm glad a game like guild wars 2 is gonna change that entire thought process so other companies can see there are alternatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki View Post
    Gonna say it right now, call me troll or whatever, but after reading the above discussion I'm glad a game like guild wars 2 is gonna change that entire thought process so other companies can see there are alternatives.
    Nay, that was Aion/Rift/WAR/AoC/XIV.

    I'm sorry that I've seen such good design/mechanics/balances from other games that I expect this game to step up to it.
    It's alright. And I'm sorry that I expect this game to leave that mechanic behind for something that works better with only small changes to the existing formula.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post


    It's alright. And I'm sorry that I expect this game to leave that mechanic behind for something that works better.
    When you see something that works better lemme know. Don't worry I'll wait.

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    i cant wait for gw2 to fail so fucking hard so people can stop talking about the coming messiah for a genre whos better days are clearly behind them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    When you see something that works better lemme know. Don't worry I'll wait.
    Here I am explaining it to you, but the blaze of Azeroth in your eyes is blocking my attempts.

    A good start is that you don't force me to maximize just to be able to take part in the content. I'll do it either way.

    i cant wait for gw2 to fail so fucking hard so people can stop talking about the coming messiah for a genre whos better days are clearly behind them
    Psh, let me link you to a dev interview that shows you that this time, it's different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    You don't like games to make sure you're maximizing?
    Since when is clearing specific content x for specific gear y the only way to maximize?

    If well balanced this is something that makes end-game much better. Just ask anyone playing WoW.
    The most amazing thing just happened: another person suggested that XIV should just do what WoW does. But with moogles and chocobos and Cid and Bahamut, yo!

    I'd rather see a merit-based (as in meripo) progression than a gear-based progression. It's bad enough hoping for a piece of gear to drop when it's merely something you want to improve your leetness; being stuck at one level of progression while you wait for a piece of gear you literally need to move on is not an improvement.

    Just because you got used to it in WoW, that doesn't make it a good idea. I suppose next, you're going to defend the idea of the best gear in the game being reduced to the status of worse-than-AH every time a new expansion comes out?

    There is a middle between extremes, you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tol View Post
    i cant wait for gw2 to fail so fucking hard so people can stop talking about the coming messiah for a genre whos better days are clearly behind them
    your saying this in a XIV thread, one of the worst mmo's in modern days and shunned by all review companies and considered the laughing stock of mmo's

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    oh noes.

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    yes because you trolls keep coming into a thread about dev comments and trying to stir shit up and talk about other games.

    ps. i play many MMO's. I played them before XI and will play them after XIV is long dead. Don't try and act like i'm white knighting this game. I'm simply tired of the immense amount of trolling that goes on in these forums. Some people still take pleasure in this game. You, and many others, do not. We get it.

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    Pleasure? SE loves me and would never do me wrong. Sure it's spit in my soup, thrown me down the stairs, and stolen the last eight years of my life with empty promises. But it said it was sorry and to be patient.

    It's my fault it can't do better. I must not be trying hard enough. I'm so sorry SE ; ; I'll never let go!!!

    Now where's my apron, I have to make sure dinner is ready when it gets home.

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    Can we get a mod in here to get shit back on topic? If you want to bitch take it to the complaint thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Jorildyn View Post
    Pleasure? SE loves me and would never do me wrong. Sure it's spit in my soup, thrown me down the stairs, and stolen the last eight years of my life with empty promises. But it said it was sorry and to be patient.

    It's my fault it can't do better. I must not be trying hard enough. I'm so sorry SE ; ; I'll never let go!!!

    Now where's my apron, I have to make sure dinner is ready when it gets home.
    This is why we can't have good things.

    But we can have another set of comments from our beloved Leader. Now to wait for the translations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tol View Post
    i cant wait for gw2 to fail so fucking hard so people can stop talking about the coming messiah for a genre whos better days are clearly behind them
    The 40 minute demo, I had with guild wars 2, has already surpassed everything I have played in 14 for over a year. Also my comment was simply about the gear thing. Simply stating that there are alternatives that are just as fun and challenging without having the game be about gear stats.

    and as far as the mmorpg genre being over, I greatly doubt that.

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    Good about the Accuracy boost, hopefully its where it should be. Accuracy was terrible, hope they continue to adjust it and I like gear playing a bigger role.

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    Only thing I wish they went in more detail with was the ratio. Will 2 DEX = 1 ACC again? Or something like that?

    EDIT: Guess it won't be hard to find out now since things like accuracy are no longer hidden.

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    I started replaying a month ago and the way you target and cast spells is really annoying when your trying to switch targets or if you need to heal someone else in the middle of nuking. It has nothing to do with wanting the game to be other MMOs when people say that.

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    Its wanting the game to be not bad. Its wanting a brand new game to be not old and not clunky. There's a difference between wanting what you paid for - what was advertised - and trolling.

    Edit: Yeah, they're working on it, but shit, you think that'll stop people from complaining or having a right to complain? There are companies with fully-functioning, high-quality products that still receive tons of complaints, and rightfully so. Its a consumer's right to complain, especially when they see room for improvement.

    There will be plenty of time to praise all the wonderful that's coming... when it actually arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Its wanting the game to be not bad. Its wanting a brand new game to be not old and not clunky. There's a difference between wanting what you paid for - what was advertised - and trolling.

    Edit: Yeah, they're working on it, but shit, you think that'll stop people from complaining or having a right to complain? There are companies with fully-functioning, high-quality products that still receive tons of complaints, and rightfully so. Its a consumer's right to complain, especially when they see room for improvement.

    There will be plenty of time to praise all the wonderful that's coming... when it actually arrives.
    True that, but then there is also there difference between "Comments from the devs" thread, and "Complaint" thread. I still think he has a valid point whether you are trolling or not. We all know XIV has a long way to go. Will it make it or not.. who knows, does it need to be repeated in every single thread?

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    Don't include me in the trolling department. Its not trolling to say that the current UI is garbage, no matter how many times Yoshi talks about revamping it. The reason the UI is terrible (for PC) is because its made for console and resembles a console-based UI in essentially every sense.

    Could it all go into the complaints thread? Sure, but then you'd have to weed out every negative remark about every dev comment as well. Every time.

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