Comments from the Devs

[Headspace]

Only retards will be arguing over who gets to see their character do an animation.

So the FFXIV player base

[miokomioko]

I thought Gaius wasn't into that whole holy war thing.

I think he's just as zealous as any Garlean, he just didn't cosign White Raven deceiving their emperor in order to fulfill some personal (and extremely reckless) shit. Also, everyone generally distrusted White Raven since he achieved his position thanks to a lot of suspicious deaths (including his own father I think?).

I noticed the Garlean "judge" posse looks lopsided with White Raven gone. Also, the woman's helmet is completely borrowed from Judge Drace.

[solracht]

So the whole group will have to fight over who uses a LB?

kinda dumb

What is this about fighting? It's a party-based system. You, as a party, should decide beforehand and tell people who should use which LBs and when.

Saying that a system is dumb because there's the opportunity for party members to use it incorrectly is retarded. You could make that argument for pretty much everything in a MMO.

[Headspace]

What is this about fighting? It's a party-based system. You, as a party, should decide beforehand and tell people who should use which LBs and when.

Saying that a system is dumb because there's the opportunity for party members to use it incorrectly is retarded. You could make that argument for pretty much everything in a MMO.

There are a lot of things in MMOs that are dumb. This looks dumb. I'd have to see more instead of a trailer or a stream of people playing where I have no idea what the fuck is going on.

[Niiro]

Is it really Gaius? I know (/think) Nael is supposed to be dead but some of that dialogue didn't make sense coming from Gaius (specifically, "blighted land" of "false gods" that "must be saved" and "delivered from ignorance").

I thought Gaius wasn't into that whole holy war thing.

You see him speaking in the video (the part where he and the rest of the clanky crew come off the ship).

The Garlean Empire as a whole have always been about fighting against the "false gods" (primals).

[Spider-Dan]

What is this about fighting? It's a party-based system. You, as a party, should decide beforehand and tell people who should use which LBs and when.

Saying that a system is dumb because there's the opportunity for party members to use it incorrectly is retarded. You could make that argument for pretty much everything in a MMO.

It's like having pooled MP for your entire party: trying to convince your BLM how much MP they should be leaving for your PLD and WHM is not exactly Exciting New Gameplay.

Similarly, I doubt many people are looking forward to a Revolutionary Innovation of arguing with their party about how best to spend shared LB bars. Particularly not with pickup parties.

Seems like it would be better if people had individual LB bars and you could "meter burn" yours during the startup of someone else's LB to power theirs up.

[Spider-Dan]

You see him speaking in the video (the part where he and the rest of the clanky crew come off the ship).

To be fair, you see lots of different people during the voiceover, and it's not like his mouth is moving.

It probably is Gaius, but that dialogue seemed out of character to me.

[Fievel]

One of the bigger LS's will release a video of how to do a fight, and they'll say in the video when to do what LB.

Then all the pick up groups will imitate the video exactly, no argument needed.

Welcome to XIV, and MMO's.

[Nullibicity]

That wasn't lvl50 ifrit was it? It looked like easy mode, he was hardly using any skills?

[Gokulo]

That wasn't lvl50 ifrit was it? It looked like easy mode, he was hardly using any skills?

No. They were lv 30, plus the fight is specifically tuned for E3.

[Sigmakan]

For Limit Break, could the 'strategy' be in how the party builds up the meter?

Kinda disappointing that THIS is our 'advance combat' feature.

[Shuichi]

For Limit Break, could the 'strategy' be in how the party builds up the meter?

Kinda disappointing that THIS is our 'advance combat' feature.

Well, Yoshi did say that "fine" play would fill the meter up faster.

[solracht]

It's like having pooled MP for your entire party: trying to convince your BLM how much MP they should be leaving for your PLD and WHM is not exactly Exciting New Gameplay.

You're comparing primary resources, used by all your basic actions to a secondary, shared resource which is used by party-based actions. Party members can still perform their own roles even if they're not the ones triggering the LB. The BLM "sharing" the LB bar with his party does not stop the BLM from performing his role.

If the system seems too hard to understand, just pretend the party has a list of LB skills to choose from. Who triggers the actual skill is not the point - if the party needs extra AOE damage, the party uses Meteor. If the party needs AOE defense, the party uses Shield Wall.

Similarly, I doubt many people are looking forward to a Revolutionary Innovation of arguing with their party about how best to spend shared LB bars.

If "arguing" (quotation marks here for a reason) with your members about the best way to do something with them is not appealing at all, perhaps you're playing the wrong type of game. If you're not interested in figuring out how to do things with your party, then don't do party-based content. LB is just another layer added on top the actual encounter mechanics that the party has to optimize around.

In terms of 1.0: ideally, some parties might need the PLD limit break to survive Hellfires. Other groups could just use melee LBs to speed up the fight. Paranoid people could just sit on the full LB bar in case the recovery LB is needed in the last phase.

Particularly not with pickup parties.

If you don't want to argue with retards, don't play with retards.

Seems like it would be better if people had individual LB bars and you could "meter burn" yours during the startup of someone else's LB to power theirs up.

LBs being individual defeats the entire point. At least suggest something that keeps the LB being a party-based system, or ask for LBs to be removed entirely.

[Cichy]

when is the live letter again?

[Gokulo]

15 min

[Cichy]

aww shit, on the main stream right?

[solracht]

Should be here:

[Takiwaki]

Not sure if anyone posted

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...wvj9riw9U/edit

Rein is doing a live translation

[Omniyoji]

Thanks

[Gokulo]

Booh, trailer repeat