Comments from the Devs

[Spider-Dan]

I was supposed to say actively maintaining songs, but I even if I did you still wouldn't get it.

So to clarify, in your world, "actively maintaining songs" does NOT mean repeatedly renewing separate songs with different expirations on different party members every ~150 seconds, but instead clicking a song icon on your hotbar and waiting for your MP to run out. Got it.

Your repeatedly stated dislike for the BRD job really shines through in your complete cluelessness on how BRD works (in XI, 1.0, and ARR).

[Churchill]

1.0 PLD didn't need Ballad if your 1.0 PLD wasn't a bad.

[Alkar]

I never said there's no need for songs but you surely don't need multiple songs active anymore. PLD has a lot more options than Flash spam and they can also get MP back with one of their combos (and generate extra enmity while doing it too!).
I'd say that Requiem is a lot more important than anything else if it works like I assume it does, Paeon and Ballad won't increase your damage. However they really should display TP bars for party members or you'll just have to guess when Paeon is needed. Ballad is probably the least useful song right now unless Arcanist/Summoner/Scholar need it that badly. Well, if you're running with 2 BRDs I assume it wouldn't be that bad to have one on Ballad and another on Requiem but you'd be wasting a slot imo. I still think BRD needs some way to recover MP on its own other than Ether spamming unless Ballad is bugged right now and that's supposed to be it.

[miokomioko]

My character is being treated like a new character instead of a returning character. Will they have that fixed before phase 4?

Isn't the whole "Warriors of Light" concept going to be blanket lore for all characters? NPCs clearly state that no one has any clear recollection of the events of the Battle of Carteneau or the identity of the adventurers that helped fight the Primals, Garlemald, and vanished after Dalamud's fall.

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[Churchill]

I never said there's no need for songs but you surely don't need multiple songs active anymore. PLD has a lot more options than Flash spam and they can also get MP back with one of their combos (and generate extra enmity while doing it too!).
I'd say that Requiem is a lot more important than anything else if it works like I assume it does, Paeon and Ballad won't increase your damage. However they really should display TP bars for party members or you'll just have to guess when Paeon is needed. Ballad is probably the least useful song right now unless Arcanist/Summoner/Scholar need it that badly. Well, if you're running with 2 BRDs I assume it wouldn't be that bad to have one on Ballad and another on Requiem but you'd be wasting a slot imo. I still think BRD needs some way to recover MP on its own other than Ether spamming unless Ballad is bugged right now and that's supposed to be it.

wat. why are you talking lol.

[Elcura]

So to clarify, in your world, "actively maintaining songs" does NOT mean repeatedly renewing separate songs with different expirations on different party members every ~150 seconds, but instead clicking a song icon on your hotbar and waiting for your MP to run out. Got it.

Your repeatedly stated dislike for the BRD job really shines through in your complete cluelessness on how BRD works (in XI, 1.0, and ARR).

It's almost like I said you still wouldn't get it.

[Obsidian]

Isn't the whole "Warriors of Light" concept going to be blanket lore for all characters? NPCs clearly state that no one has any clear recollection of the events of the Battle of Carteneau or the identity of the adventurers that helped fight the Primals, Garlemald, and vanished after Dalamud's fall.

http://www.bbspot.com/Images/News_Fe...n_in_black.jpg

I thought they were referring to the intro, which is different for imported characters. I think the allusions to your identity (everyone commenting on how godsdamned familiar you look) are only for imported characters as well?

[Izzy]

I thought they were referring to the intro, which is different for imported characters. I think the allusions to your identity (everyone commenting on how godsdamned familiar you look) are only for imported characters as well?

Yeah. These things are supposed to happen when you're a 1.0 player, but mine is being treated like a 2.0 character. (2.0 opening cutscene, no one giving me the "oh you're familiar" treatment) I submitted a bug report and a bunch of people hopped on it and they accepted the report.

[Sign]

Yeah. These things are supposed to happen when you're a 1.0 player, but mine is being treated like a 2.0 character. (2.0 opening cutscene, no one giving me the "oh you're familiar" treatment) I submitted a bug report and a bunch of people hopped on it and they accepted the report.

Now I am even more confused. I loaded up my 1.0 (non-legacy) character and got the standard 2.0 opening in Limsa. However, routinely during cutscenes etc I would have people comment on how I looked familiar etc. So it doesn't seem like it is even an all or nothing bug. Either that, or there is still some dialogue stating you are familiar even if you are just a 2.0 character.

[Alkar]

wat. why are you talking lol.

Requiem directly lowers enemy's resistance to damage so if it works like every other skill with similar descriptions it will increase everyone's damage by 10%.
Ballad and Paeon do not directly affect damage output for anyone but the BRD (20% reduction) with Ballad being the least useful buff unless you're heavy on mages for some reason. TP management at higher levels is something we really can't test right now but full-timing Paeon does not seem like a good idea with the information we have so far. BRDs will likely switch between Requiem and Paeon in endgame unless things change.

[Spider-Dan]

Requiem directly lowers enemy's elemental resistance

fixed

[Raldo]

For those of you having trouble with the 1.0 intro, I have two questions for you:

1) How far did you get in the 1.0 story?
2) Did you log out in Mor Dhona and/or participate in the final hours of FFXIV 1.0? (I doubt this matters, since it was past the final save)
3) Does your character have the "legacy mark"? (tattoo on the upper back)

I don't know what all the prerequisites are to get the old character intro, but I imagine they have some sort of minimum requirements to either get the different text, and/or get the legacy mark. I haven't logged into my junk lv1 mule character from 1.0, so I can't say whether or not he got the legacy tattoo and/or intro, but I'm sure someone here can enlighten us on whether or not such a character would receive those changes.

[Sign]

For those of you having trouble with the 1.0 intro, I have two questions for you:

1) How far did you get in the 1.0 story?
2) Did you log out in Mor Dhona and/or participate in the final hours of FFXIV 1.0? (I doubt this matters, since it was past the final save)
3) Does your character have the "legacy mark"? (tattoo on the upper back)

I don't know what all the prerequisites are to get the old character intro, but I imagine they have some sort of minimum requirements to either get the different text, and/or get the legacy mark. I haven't logged into my junk lv1 mule character from 1.0, so I can't say whether or not he got the legacy tattoo and/or intro, but I'm sure someone here can enlighten us on whether or not such a character would receive those changes.

That was 3 questions not 2, but anyways.

1.) Not far, level 20 is highest class.
2.) Yes, participated in final event
3.) Didn't know about the tattoo until things were shut down for the week, will check when things open up this weekend.

Ultimately I am not overly concerned about the 1.0 special starts. Was just hoping to check them out during Beta to see them since I will rolling a new character for release. If they don't get it working in time I am sure someone will have documented the differences eventually and I will just watch/read about them.

[Churchill]

Requiem directly lowers enemy's resistance to damage so if it works like every other skill with similar descriptions it will increase everyone's damage by 10%.
Ballad and Paeon do not directly affect damage output for anyone but the BRD (20% reduction) with Ballad being the least useful buff unless you're heavy on mages for some reason. TP management at higher levels is something we really can't test right now but full-timing Paeon does not seem like a good idea with the information we have so far. BRDs will likely switch between Requiem and Paeon in endgame unless things change.

That's nice and all but you're arguing for 3 bards in every group instead of 2 because TP is a seriously limited resource.

[Kelenae]

The intro was bugging out for people... my character appeared like the guy on the trailer not on a cart...

And on the people forgetting about you. I think it'll get answered later on the story. But my theory is that it is (putting this under spoilers so people dont get mad)

Spoiler: show

primal related since Milifina (People who have the echo arent effect by primal powers of influence and she has the echo power) remembers you. Maybe sending you into the future had some kind of side effect

[solracht]

And on the people forgetting about you. I think it'll get answered later on the story. But my theory is that it is (putting this under spoilers so people dont get mad)

Spoiler: show

primal related since Milifina (People who have the echo arent effect by primal powers of influence and she has the echo power) remembers you. Maybe sending you into the future had some kind of side effect

This is done terribly right now imo. Some main characters remember me in cutscenes then five seconds later they're treating me like I'm not even wearing ravens.

I wasn't expecting them to change all the dialog (wouldn't want them to waste that much time on such a minor thing either) but when a character tells me "I know everything you did for us, I will never forget" and it's immediately followed by "btw do you know what the Echo is??" I can't help but wonder why they even bothered.

I'd prefer if no important NPCs remembered me at all instead of the current (understandably) half-assed efforts. Comments from random npcs are nice though since they only have one string of dialog.

lol immersion and story post

[Rocl]

they're treating me like I'm not even wearing ravens.

wat are you a fucking faggot

an all or nothing approach would've been better; though i suppose the only NPCs we know of w/ Echo (which seems to be preserving memory) are our path companions and Minfilia; little things like Fredswitha being like OSHI-- ARENT YOU? o nvm is fine, but when you got shit like Tataru and the Grand Companies who have fucking ledgers with your name in them going "you seem familiar. let me just write you in again" hsdfhakjfhkjsadh FUCK

3/10 would not preorder

[Carraway]

TP management at higher levels is something we really can't test right now but full-timing Paeon does not seem like a good idea with the information we have so far. BRDs will likely switch between Requiem and Paeon in endgame unless things change.

We actually did a fair amount of testing against FATE bosses (though we still need to do a lot more) with our level 50 characters, and we got enough information to start modeling how combat will look when fighting bosses for extended periods of time. As far as we can tell up to this point, there is no level correction (go autoattack a level 1 mandragora next weekend then go attack a level 50 sahagin with the same gear and see how much your damage range changes) -- not that that would change TP expenditure vs regen. With one BRD geared purely for +MP and singing Paeon (~2500 MP), using consumables at the right times, a MNK can sustain combat for a maximum of roughly five minutes. We used MNKs as the baseline because of their lower GCD and higher probable rate of TP expenditure. If your BRD has baseline gear or DPS gear with no real +MP, that maximum combat time goes down dramatically.

Requiem affects elemental resistance, so you would have at least one BRD in the raid singing it for your BLMs/SMNs, potentially two BRDs if you want it fulltime.

[Churchill]

I actually ran out of TP less often on MNK/DRG than I did WAR. Warrior chews through TP. Whether or not that rate of expenditure is necessary, I don't know. I don't know because people cried on the OF to get colors back instead of the actual threat% display and because of this we have an even less accurate threat tree than we did in 1.0.

[Carraway]

It's definitely possible that WAR is worse off as far as TP expenditure goes; though I played WAR, I didn't take enough notes to really do anything with any real accuracy during this downtime. I seriously hope we get that granular enmity display back as well.