Comments from the Devs

[Eanae]

So if I only have reason to play 1 character ever. Is there any reason I shouldn't pay "Entry", or are there other differences?
I want a 9.99$ option that only allows 1 character period.

Ill second that. Other than the fact that my 1.0 char will sit on Excalibur untouched I'll never play more than one character.

[Lucavi]

Several reasons have been given why someone would want to have Legacy status and props to them if they have it. The only 'problem' is that several Legacy members like to swing their dick around and smack people around with it, especially when a non-legacy takes the bait.

This is BG. You should be used to this by now. Its kind of the mantra of the forum: get something better than the average Joe, and mash your dick in their face because of it. Were you not around for XI HNM and salvage drama threads?

[Niiro]

NEVER FUCKING MIND. Obviously a carby reskin got me too interested in posting.

They call it entry because they want people to sign up for standard, no other reason.

There's virtually no need for mules or alts in XIV, you can't even send items between your own characters.

edit: you changed your post and now mine makes no sense, jerk

[Spider-Dan]

I want a 9.99$ option that only allows 1 character period.

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[Foxer]

This is BG. You should be used to this by now. Its kind of the mantra of the forum: get something better than the average Joe, and mash your dick in their face because of it. Were you not around for XI HNM and salvage drama threads?

That was different, because it actually took time to get to that point. lol

I have a good feeling this supposed big dick status, and their established economy thing isn't going to last very long at all. I'm guessing with gear patches, new dungeons, new materials, and how easy it is to hit 50, everything should be caught up within a couple of months soon. I don't see a lot of BG people boasting about it though, so it's cool. Was quite different in the beta with duty finder though.

I expect servers to drop the Legacy title within the first merger. Uh oh; SAID IT!

[Charismatic]

everything should be caught up within a couple of months soon

lol

[LD]

They call it entry because they want people to sign up for standard, no other reason.

There's virtually no need for mules or alts in XIV, you can't even send items between your own characters.

So my acknowledging that I was wrong was your signal to be a douchebag and try to rub my nose in it? Why.

[Hioki]

You realize that ARR is probably the single worst example to make this argument for, right?

Sorry I didn't articulate myself well on this. All games in development not necessarily FFXIV.

We had prior knowledge that 14 was already bad on release. People bought in on preorders and intended to play with the expectation that the game would be better later down the line, I can actually name a few of my friends whose reasoning was this. However the game should have not even hit the shelves or bought into at all. The money would have spoken and they would have gone back to the drawing board long before the game started then flopped. We would have gotten ARR anyways and 1.0 may have never existed in the first place. Even without 1.0, it is very likely we would have seen ARR is some form or another. It's a shame that developers had to waste time on 1.0 in general because it's 'what the people are saying with their money'.

[Kipling]

Did the last few pages really just happen?

I'm actually disappointed at the internet.

[Charismatic]

The money would have spoken and they would have gone back to the drawing board long before the game started then flopped. We would have gotten ARR anyways and 1.0 may have never existed in the first place.

Speculation and unrealistic speculation at that.

[MoneyD]

Did the last few pages really just happen?

I'm actually disappointed at the internet.

Yeah it did... Had to check and make sure I was not reading the beta forum... Then I realized I was not...

[Spider-Dan]

We had prior knowledge that 14 was already bad on release.

Only if you believed that there would be functionally no difference between open beta and retail.

However the game should have not even hit the shelves or bought into at all. The money would have spoken and they would have gone back to the drawing board long before the game started then flopped. We would have gotten ARR anyways and 1.0 may have never existed in the first place.

So you're saying that no one should have bought 1.0 based solely on the beta, which somehow would have resulted in SE deciding to continue forward with many of the assets from the failed game to make a new, better version?

This is probably the worst possible forum (full of Legacy players) for the worst possible game (ARR) to propose this theory. Legacy players (and 1.0 buyers as a whole) are the entire reason ARR exists.

Even without 1.0, it is very likely we would have seen ARR is some form or another.

If "some form or another" = Final Fantasy XVII, sure.

[Niiro]

So my acknowledging that I was wrong was your signal to be a douchebag and try to rub my nose in it? Why.

I.....what?

[Foxer]

lol

3? 4? It's really not going to last very long, assuming new gear keeps coming out. I'd be completely shocked if they made it to the first real patch with any noticeable difference between the two types of servers? Maybe 2 was pushing it though. Haha..

[Jamison]

You guys realize most folks here were very low-key about their legacy status until others started coming in and whining about it. And then it became fun just to fuck with 'em.

[Spider-Dan]

I'm guessing with gear patches, new dungeons, new materials, and how easy it is to hit 50, everything should be caught up within a couple of months soon.

That depends on what you mean by caught up.

If you mean that HQ LV50 synths simply exist (at ridiculous prices that only the 1% can afford), sure, they'll catch up pretty fast on that. But the legacy servers have an economic lead of several trillion (or maybe several billion after redenomination) gil in circulation. Not only that, but while non-legacy newbs are busy destroying gil by buying gear from NPCs, legacy newbs will be buying gear from other players, so the lead is likely to increase in the early months.

[Eanae]

Gil means absolutely nothing on legacy vs new servers. Prices will just match the current economies on each server. However, the supply of materials and materia which already exists on legacy servers is what will give the biggest lead.

[Charismatic]

Gil means absolutely nothing on legacy vs new servers.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE LOL

[Tokitoki]

That depends on what you mean by caught up.

If you mean that HQ LV50 synths simply exist (at ridiculous prices that only the 1% can afford), sure, they'll catch up pretty fast on that. But the legacy servers have an economic lead of several trillion (or maybe several billion after redenomination) gil in circulation. Not only that, but while non-legacy newbs are busy destroying gil by buying gear from NPCs, legacy newbs will be buying gear from other players, so the lead is likely to increase in the early months.

Who buys gear from NPCs? You can get a full mage set and melee set of gear for each level range just by questing.

[Eanae]

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE LOL

Simple fucking economics.

Economy A has a billion Gil. Economy B has 100,000 Gil. Prices are not going to be the same between the two economies. Prices will reflect the current money present in the economy. Just because item A costs 200k in economy A it could cost 2,000 in economy B.