Comments from the Devs

[Jinfire]

I think the best way they could of did it was with the actual models of the primals just smaller. I dont disagree with Egi's though, it still makes primals relevant (powerful) while allowing summoner to exist as a job lore wise. Free Company summons also might use actual primal models, however that works.

I just think this is how summoner will work in this game which I see how it is disappointing to many people but they wouldn't go through the trouble of the Egi's to then implement a "full primal version". A cooldown sure but they wouldn't have done Egi's just to give them full models and Im sure they knew people would be disappointed too but it has to fit the world at least for SE. Im sure someone well versed in the lore can debate it but SE wants to keep the primals fierce and intimidating without turning summoner into a hero class (needing a max ish level character to get the summons)

Its a balance between lore, accessibility, and functionality. I personally don't mind the Egi's, disappointed sure but Ill be okay with it if the job works and is fun.

[Galkaeater]

http://rss.finalfantasyxiv.com/jp/bl...20130729_2.jpg

[Adajer]

I immediately though of fruit snacks and fruit roll ups.

http://cdn.nuts.com/images/auto/510x...9324cb7fca.jpg

[Teknique]

Am i the only one who feels yellow titan is extremely ugly? I feel he should be brown like the earth.
Maybe yellow is the color of tank pets. Ie carby titan.

Looks like a yellow turd with hair

[xopher]

Earth Crystals are and have always been yellow.

[miokomioko]

The egis aren't supposed to be just mini-versions of the Primals, it's their channeled "essence," hence being almost entirely their elemental color (with small accents) instead of the same skin.

I would expect Ramuh Egi to be mostly purple with a white beard despite his robes, Shiva Egi to be mostly white/light-blue despite her clothing, and Leviathan Egi to be mostly deep blue despite whatever the hell.

I still don't care for them much. :/ I would have rather had a set of alternate, lower-tier classic summons or perhaps gone with the Zodiac system for Summoner although that's a quick way to use up a lot of valuable FF namesakes in one fell swoop.

[solracht]

Yoshi-P made this post in the latency thread this morning.



http://forum.square-enix.com/ARR-Tes...96#post1095796

Not holding my breath, but good to know that they're working on it. We'll see come phase 4.

[Charismatic]

I like the Egis. Makes me think of the XI elementals but with an upgrade.

[Kiarax]

I like em too, we can't summon the actual primals for obvious lore reasons, what we've got is obviously less awesome looking but they still look sweet to me. What matters is the skill animations imo, and the glimpses we've seen look good.

[Lucavi]

I very much like em. Summoning a mini, pocket-version of the avatars would have been stupid. It also makes no sense plot-wise. Hell, even FFX made it so that two summoners battling one another couldn't have the same summon out at the same time.

Something something something don't cross the stream something.

[Ratatapa]

I very much like em. Summoning a mini, pocket-version of the avatars would have been stupid. It also makes no sense plot-wise. Hell, even FFX made it so that two summoners battling one another couldn't have the same summon out at the same time.

Something something something don't cross the stream something.

Still hoping for a big summon during limit break kinda like old ff

[Lucavi]

Should be some neutral-element summon. Nadeen or something, lol, or perhaps your patron saint or something.

[solracht]

The only thing you're going to be "summoning" during LB is Meteor

YOU'RE JUST LIKE SEPHIROTH

[Izzy]

Yoshi-P made this post in the latency thread this morning.



http://forum.square-enix.com/ARR-Tes...96#post1095796

The amount of community interaction that this team has put in is nothing short of outstanding. If it's not one of the best, then it surely is the most interaction that SE has ever given to their community in their history.

[Adajer]

The amount of community interaction that this team has put in is nothing short of outstanding. If it's not one of the best, then it surely is the most interaction that SE has ever given to their community in their history.

Does that apply to the community's feedback on the battle system?

[Raldo]

Has there been any sort of massive rallying cry behind anything involving the battle system like there was with that issue? Sure people have their complaints, but I don't think I've seen any single massive cause for them to address; just a bunch of fractured ones.

I rarely visit the OF because fuck that, so I could just be completely oblivious.

[Fievel]

Has there been any sort of massive rallying cry behind anything involving the battle system like there was with that issue? Sure people have their complaints, but I don't think I've seen any single massive cause for them to address; just a bunch of fractured ones.

I rarely visit the OF because fuck that, so I could just be completely oblivious.

Just a bunch of fractured ones as you said. The threads generally are just "I DON'T LIKE IT FIX IT" with no other information whatsoever, so yeah.

[Gokulo]

The amount of shit that was posted on battle system was immense, but it was just pointless crying or some really asinine ideas.

[Spira]

What if summoners gain an ability later on to do a single attack that transforms the egi into the full form of the summon. It would be like an amalgam of the way summons worked throughout FF history.

i think this is not likely..

there are probably multiple reasons that they've chosen to take the Egi approach to SMN.

1) they already said that primals would be summonable by Free Companies. Therefore a primal summon is for companies, and the egis for SMN. The different look is there to differentiate the two. Also makes it so that they don't have to worry about overdesigning a primal because it wouldn't fit as a SMN pet (see FFXI and Bahamut)

2) Primals are a limited resource. Your company can summon the primal like ONCE before its released and free game again.. so there's only going to be ONE giant model going around at any time. If SMN could do the whole upgrade thing then you'd probably get a huge model orgy fest when a bunch of SMN group together.. and I know summoners, we love to circlejerk if we can afford to.

[Lucavi]

The only thing you're going to be "summoning" during LB is Meteor

YOU'RE JUST LIKE SEPHIROTH

Give me a 24-man alliance limit break of Supernova (or Meltdown) and take all of my money.