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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    I still don't care for them much. :/ I would have rather had a set of alternate, lower-tier classic summons or perhaps gone with the Zodiac system for Summoner although that's a quick way to use up a lot of valuable FF namesakes in one fell swoop.
    I really don't understand what your problem with them is. They look very stylistically appropriate. They each take ques from their full power designs, but are simplified to indicate less power and less aetheric cohesion (uch, I said "aetheric"). They're not SD or ridiculously cartoony to accomplish this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    Has there been any sort of massive rallying cry behind anything involving the battle system like there was with that issue? Sure people have their complaints, but I don't think I've seen any single massive cause for them to address; just a bunch of fractured ones.

    I rarely visit the OF because fuck that, so I could just be completely oblivious.
    Biggest I've seen is the cry for Individual Limit Breaks. Otherwise? Just a bunch of pointless whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD View Post
    I really don't understand what your problem with them is. They look very stylistically appropriate. They each take ques from their full power designs, but are simplified to indicate less power and less aetheric cohesion (uch, I said "aetheric"). They're not SD or ridiculously cartoony to accomplish this.
    But where's the Final Fantasy Feeling?

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    its just that theyre designed to the flavor of the game. it would make sense that they don't exactly look like other things in game because they are organic and of some strange ancient origin as opposed to most of what we've seen so far. to put it in another way. FF13 had Shiva sisters having lesbian sex while Snow rode them as a motorcycle, and all the eidolons were either some mecha or mode of transport. Here they're glowy rocks.

    the Final Fantasy Feeling is pretty much fulfilled so long as the primals actually appear in the game, whether or not you get to use them. And we actually will, as FCs. SMNs get the shorter end of the nostalgia stick.

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    I mean Fire II is AoE and my brain can't comprehend an AoE spell without its ra and ga suffix.

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    Regarding Egis, couldn't they just be .dat swapped into the real primals (well, maybe a bit smaller) eventually when that stuff is figured out/made easier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scythiroth View Post
    Regarding Egis, couldn't they just be .dat swapped into the real primals (well, maybe a bit smaller) eventually when that stuff is figured out/made easier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scythiroth View Post
    Regarding Egis, couldn't they just be .dat swapped into the real primals (well, maybe a bit smaller) eventually when that stuff is figured out/made easier?
    That probably won't be too easy, unless you want a model without animations following you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    But where's the Final Fantasy Feeling?
    In FFXII Ifrit was a ship. Those abominations they called Espers were anything but final fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scythiroth View Post
    Regarding Egis, couldn't they just be .dat swapped into the real primals (well, maybe a bit smaller) eventually when that stuff is figured out/made easier?
    Oh c'mon, you guys are just getting desperate now.

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    Oh, I don't care about their appearance, I think they are fine the way they are, I just mean for people that don't like them. >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    The amount of community interaction that this team has put in is nothing short of outstanding. If it's not one of the best, then it surely is the most interaction that SE has ever given to their community in their history.
    I really do enjoy the community involvement, but no MMO has beaten Rift devs in openness. They are literally taking ideas directly from a thread. I have to applaud Rift developers if for nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonely View Post
    Those abominations they called Espers were anything but final fantasy.
    lol @ this considering that many of them were direct references to old FF villians and a good chunk of them were also pulled out of FFT.

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    So based on the "stringent server checks" part of the post, Yoshida's response is that it truly is related to beta-only server settings? I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    lol @ this considering that many of them were direct references to old FF villians and a good chunk of them were also pulled out of FFT.
    ^ This

    The fuck are you talking about Lonely?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    So based on the "stringent server checks" part of the post, Yoshida's response is that it truly is related to beta-only server settings? I hope so.
    Pretty much, yeah, heh. Here's to hoping I guess.

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    Indeed, that is what i took from it as well. Basically he chalked it up to a combination of a wide circle around the character as the 'check box' and lag from background processes related to beta. He said they are changing the circle to a dot, but let's see what happens once these "Server checks" should be gone.

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    Wern't Espers in FFVI even before Tactics.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki View Post
    Wern't Espers in FFVI even before Tactics.?
    Yes, but they included the traditional summons from throughout the FF series. They weren't actually called espers in Ivalice until FFXII also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiji Okita View Post
    Yes, but they included the traditional summons from throughout the FF series. They weren't actually called espers in Ivalice until FFXII also.
    Being that I skipped FFXII (I found it one of the worst of the series), I will say no more lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki View Post
    Being that I skipped FFXII (I found it one of the worst of the series), I will say no more lol.
    Play it all the way through, it has a slow start is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki View Post
    Being that I skipped FFXII
    Oh, so you found it one of the worst by not playing it.
    That makes sense

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