2011 MLB Season Discussion: Joey Votto MVP Edition

[Demosthenes11]

stats dont mean dick unless you are looking to get paid. All I care about as a fan is winning. If you walk 3 batters per inning but have an ERA of under 3, I'm really not going to give a fuck because we'll be winning. Now if the giants could actually get brian wilson on the mound lately...

[archibaldcrane]

All I care about as a fan is winning.

Right, so get on board with the guy who doesn't blow as many saves.

[Melena]

If you're going to like a closer's facial hair, might as well pick a good one.
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Better ERA, FIP, xFIP, SIERA, K/9, K/BB, BB/9, better save %, fewer blown saves, way better facial hair, etc. etc. etc.

2 less blown saves then Wilson, but, Wilson missed almost all of spring training and the first two weeks of the season while on the DL, and ironically blew his first couple saves then. Anyways, all facial hair pales in comparison to Rollie Fingers, so there.

[archibaldcrane]

2 less blown saves then Wilson, but, Wilson missed almost all of spring training and the first two weeks of the season while on the DL, and ironically blew his first couple saves then. Anyways, all facial hair pales in comparison to Rollie Fingers, so there.

Kind of funny, since Axford missed almost all of spring training, had his only two blown saves in his first 7 appearances, and hasn't blown one since April 18th. He's at 30 straight saves now.

[Melena]

Kind of funny, since Axford missed almost all of spring training, had his only two blown saves in his first 7 appearances, and hasn't blown one since April 18th.

And 4 less wins to go along with it.

[archibaldcrane]

And 4 less wins to go along with it.

Lol look at this nigga bringing up wins for a fucking reliever.

[Demosthenes11]

seriously, rollie fingers had the best face salad in the history of man

[Conrad]

stats dont mean dick unless you are looking to get paid. All I care about as a fan is winning. If you walk 3 batters per inning but have an ERA of under 3, I'm really not going to give a fuck because we'll be winning.

got heeeem

[Demosthenes11]

by not giving a fuck I mean I will be openly annoyed but still love you. That shit is fucking annoying brian wilson

[Melena]

Lol look at this nigga bringing up wins for a fucking reliever.

Just means he's good coming into a tie game and ensuring it remains tied. You mad bro?

[Cephius]

I kind of wish they'd call pitcher "wins" something else so retards would stop acting like it means he won the game all by himself

[Penthesilea]

I kind of wish they'd call pitcher "wins" something else so retards would stop acting like it means he won the game all by himself

Cliff Lee does this.

[Demosthenes11]

Cliff Lee does this.

literally true

[Cephius]

Cliff Lee does this.

Guess he sucks for only being 12-7 then!

[Demosthenes11]

phil hughes

[Cephius]

Ivan Nova is 11-4 I guess he's about as good as cliff lee huh

[Conrad]

depends, how many homers has he hit

[Conrad]

Incidentally, Cliff Lee has accumulated as much more fWAR as a batter in 2011 as Ibañez, Wilson Valdez, Brian Schneider, Ross Gload, Michael Martinez, Ben Francisco, and Domonic Brown combined.

[Cephius]

Incidentally, Cliff Lee has accumulated as much more fWAR as a batter in 2011 as Ibañez, Wilson Valdez, Brian Schneider, Ross Gload, Michael Martinez, Ben Francisco, and Domonic Brown combined.

pretty stupid comparison, Ibanez's fWAR is negative because he's a statue on defense, from a pure offensive standpoint he's been more valuable than Lee... obviously

[Demosthenes11]

niggas mad that cliff lee is a boss