2011 MLB Season Discussion: Joey Votto MVP Edition

[Melena]

This needs to be reiterated, especially with the way Cholly completely mismanaged the 9th inning.

Fuck, they won 7 in a row. You make it sound like the Giants are in the NFC west and the DBacks have a losing record. If the giants were in first, DBacks would only be a game and a half out of the wildcard.

[Akiyama]

Fuck, they won 7 in a row. You make it sound like the Giants are in the NFC west and the DBacks have a losing record. If the giants were in first, DBacks would only be a game and a half out of the wildcard.

2.5 back I do believe. Giants are 6 back, and 3.5 bac of the D-Backs, so the difference is 2.5.. at least that's how I see it.

[Melena]

Your right, 2.5 So it's not like it's a run away with it.

[Akiyama]

Yeah, not at all. The NL races, outside of the NL east really.. are real tight. Well Central too now, but lol. West/Wild card is fairly close, unlike the Sox/Yankees. They'll just coast into the playoffs :/

[Moss]

Yeah. Bourn really ran the Giants down, rofl. Is he trying to wear out their remaining players or something? At least it's 1-0, though. And yeah, Bourn's average is down a tad, but he's still hitting .291/.339/.327.. which even as meh as a .667ish OPS looks, is miles better than Schafer/McLouth, lol.

Either way.. I agree somewhat on the Heyward thing. Watching Constanza is fun, though.. but hearing people say he should absolutely start over Heyward is

And Alex Gonzalez may be a rotting husk at the plate, but in the field.. god damn.

The only stats you need to worry about with Bourn are BA, OBP, and steals. That's his game. True lead-off hitter that can get on base and then wreak havoc on the basepaths. That combined with his defense gave him a higher WAR than Pence(of an .800ish OPS?) this year in Houston.

Costanza has been waaay too hot to bench. He has been a huge boost to our offense since he has been in the lineup. I know Heyward can't turn it around from the bench, but we can't have another out machine in the lineup in important games like these against the Giants. He needs to be sent down to get his swing fixed and his mind cleared.

Good article about dangerous playoff teams: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...-face-playoffs

Archie will want to read it.

[archibaldcrane]

Consider:

• Only Clayton Kershaw (9.89 K/9 IP) owns a higher strikeout rate than Tommy Hanson (9.83 K/9 IP) this season among NL starters.
• Brandon Beachy (9.90 K/9 IP) would beat everyone if he weren't a couple of starts short of qualifying.

lol

Consider Beachy, and his 102.1 IP, as "almost there".

But if we're gonna open it up to people with 102.1 IP, I don't think we should forget about one Mr. Zack Greinke, with 114.2 IP, and a K/9 of

lol

11.22.

9.90 Beachy?

Cool story bro.

[Moss]

did the jelly hit before you reached the Brewers part? lol

[archibaldcrane]

did the jelly hit before you reached the Brewers part? lol

Obviously the Brewers would be #1. I was just mocking the two-bit analysis.

[Akiyama]

Yeah, because let's compare a previous Cy Young award winner to a guy who wasn't projected above a #3 starter that's in his first year starting.

[archibaldcrane]

"Brandon Beachy (9.90 K/9 IP) would beat everyone if..."

no

[Headspace]

Aroldis would win if dusty would've groomed him to start.

13 K/9

[Bregor]

Mark Prior would win if Dusty hadn't groomed him at all.

[Headspace]

Mark Prior would win if Dusty hadn't groomed him at all.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...nnati-reds.jpg

[Demosthenes11]

both pitchers really struggling today

wuts wrong with juirjens

[Akiyama]

first start off the DL from the knee issues, got killed that inning by a couple bloops, and then boom.. bottom fell out. 5-1 lead for Cain, though.. that's pretty much gg.

[Demosthenes11]

rofl what a face plant from eli whiteside. his entire face was fucked up after that steal

[Headspace]

He's got ubaldo syndrome

J-BRUCE

[Melena]

Fucking torture bullshit needs to end. That was too close for my liking.

[Akiyama]

Surprised it got that close. Affeldt (sp) was pretty terrible lol. Got lucky McCann's still rusty off the DL and missed that one.

[Man0warr]

Rangers running away with the West.