2011 MLB Season Discussion: Joey Votto MVP Edition

[Man0warr]

I wouldn't. He hasn't played 150 games since 2008 and he's going to be 32 years old when he becomes a free agent in 2013. Much more important to hold onto the best young shortstop in the AL and Feliz/Ogando

They got the next next best young shortstop in the minors, although they could move Kinsler to DH and just put Profar at 2B.

Feliz will have to go to the starting rotation next year if CJ walks, and Adams will probably take over at closer. Feliz is a huge baby when it comes to starting though, he'd rather close his entire career.

Dynasty, when you haven't won a thing?

Trying to be optimistic, Rangers have sucked for my entire life.

Getting rid of Tom Hicks was the best thing that's ever happened.

[Headspace]

Feliz would rather be an elite closer making bank than an average third starter or Joba.

[archibaldcrane]

Rangers dynasty is just beginning, they'll have chances to win one.

You just can't wait for the media to stop talking about the Detroit Tigers can you?

[Headspace]

You just can't wait for the media to stop talking about the Detroit Tigers can you?

lmao

[*Shinzon*]

Man Nyger Morgan is such a douchebag. I can't stand watching this guy lol.

[Demosthenes11]

dude is the true definition of a try-hard

[archibaldcrane]

People actually watching this game? How about that blown strike-3 call before the Upton homer? Pretty priceless umping.

[Weeks]

People actually watching this game? How about that blown strike-3 call before the Upton homer? Pretty priceless umping.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/...ype=1&s_type=3

The ump's strike zone has been consistent, but if you insist on the textbook strike zone that was a blown strike one call.

[archibaldcrane]

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/...ype=1&s_type=3

The ump's strike zone has been consistent, but if you insist on the textbook strike zone that was a blown strike one call.

wut

obviously not on that at-bat. You can't give a guy two borderline inside, and then not give him one 4 inches more over the plate. The strike one call being "wrong" doesn't make the 3rd "ball" call ok.

[Weeks]

He hasn't been calling the high corners at all this game. Most umps don't.

[Demosthenes11]

don't throw a HR ball - problem solved

[archibaldcrane]

He hasn't been calling the high corners at all this game. Most umps don't.

Posting a chart that shows two balls called strikes, and a strike called a ball, and saying the ump is consistent makes no sense, unless you mean consistently wrong.

[Headspace]

Who gives a shit about the Brewers getting jobbed on one pitch.

There is more important stuff to discuss.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...on-to-starter/

[Demosthenes11]

wtf

good lookin player, isn't he?

[Weeks]

Posting a chart that shows two balls called strikes, and a strike called a ball, and saying the ump is consistent makes no sense, unless you mean consistently wrong.

The chart didn't represent his consistency, it represents that you need to stop whining.

Here are the charts that represent his consistency:

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/...type=1&s_type=http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/...type=1&s_type=

Now stop whining.

[Demosthenes11]

holy shit

[Moss]

Good pitching will always beat good hitting, and Perez has been sketchy the last couple months to go along with the fact Elvis is streaky as hell. Yea Texas got some good value out of it but don't make it sound like he fleeced the Yankees.

Holy crap... you guys just see man0warr post and you instantly rage and disagree with whatever he says. The BRAVES were obviously fleeced on that trade. Yes, Tex is a very good player and he played well for us, but it wasn't enough to be worth what we gave up. It isn't "the most lopsided deal of all time" but come on, the Rangers made out like bandits.

Elvis Andrus is streaky? wtf is this shit?

[archibaldcrane]

Lol.

Why post a chart with every single pitch to prove "consistency". How about just the ones he's called?

Point is, we got jobbed on a pitch, and if we hadn't got jobbed on that pitch, they wouldn't have scored that run. If this truth bugs you, fine, but it is what it is.

[Demosthenes11]

don't throw a ball over the plate the next pitch and you don't have to worry about that shit.

[Akiyama]

So if the Brewers lose, heaven forbid, you're going to blame it all on that one pitch I guess, right?