2011 MLB Season Discussion: Joey Votto MVP Edition

[Conrad]

Also,

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[Jb1210a]

I remember when Cliff Lee was an absolute mess when pitching for the Indians in 2007. The dude clearly found his form.

[Bregor]

I remember when Cliff Lee was an absolute mess when pitching for the Indians in 2007. The dude clearly found his form.

That was the craziest thing about that ALCS in retrospect, Indians going with CC, Carmona, Westbrook and Paul fucking Byrd while Lee was rotting in Triple-A.

[Jb1210a]

Sabathia was in there too, remember the Drew grandslam? Carmona was on fire that year, imagine that rotation had Lee pitched like the lee of 2008 forward. Just nasty.

[Bregor]

Yeah CC was the first guy I listed, lol. But yeah, Lee was extremely hittable and had an uncharacteristic 3.3BB/9IP in '07 for some reason.

[Jb1210a]

Doh, I must have skimmed over that, my bad.

[archibaldcrane]

Cliff Lee in June:... 4 K/BB

Aww thats cute, his K/BB ratio this month is almost half as good as Zack Greinke's for the whole season.

It's neat that he's trying so hard.

Spoiler: show

8.89 yeaaahhh boyyyyy

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[Cephius]

Aww thats cute, his K/BB ratio this month is almost half as good as Zack Greinke's for the whole season.

It's neat that he's trying so hard.

Spoiler: show

8.89 yeaaahhh boyyyyy

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It's too bad that the Brewers defense is so mind-numbingly bad (led by new multi millionare Ryan Bruan putting up a shitastic -4.2 UZR) that he's underperforming his xFIP by almost 3 runs

[archibaldcrane]

Hey now, Yuniesky Betancourt is right behind him at -4.1 UZR.

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[Conrad]

It's too bad that the Brewers defense is so mind-numbingly bad (led by new multi millionare Ryan Bruan putting up a shitastic -4.2 UZR) that he's underperforming his xFIP by almost 3 runs

sick burn

[Bregor]

We get it. The Phillies pitching is good. Move on to another story.

Saw this on BP:

Yankees general manager Brian Cashman had a great line when asked if he thought the Phillies might be upset because he plucked right-hander Brian Gordon off their Triple-A Lehigh Valley roster and put him into the major-league rotation: "They got Cliff Lee. I got Brian Gordon. I don't think they have anything to worry about."

lol

[Melena]

After last nights game, Vogelsong is now tied for the Major League lead in ERA (finally reached the minimum innings pitched to qualify mark last night). If anyone here saw this coming, please let me know now. Right now though, he should be on the all star roster, and fuck, cap off his cinderella season by making him the starter.

[pohibaba]

Why Ryan Vogelsong is the greatest man to ever walk the planet:

His catcher in Caracas was Guillermo Rodriguez, who is a minor-league catching instructor for the Giants. He asked Vogelsong, "Have you signed with anybody (for 2011)? Do you want me to call the Giants?" Vogelsong told Rodriguez he'd been trying to get back with the Giants since they traded him in '01. The Giants didn't call Vogelsong right away. The Dodgers did, and made him an offer. Vogelsong asked Rodriguez to contact the Giants again and relay this message, in essence: I don't want to be a Dodger. I am a Giant. If you want me, I'll sign for whatever you want to pay me.

[Cephius]

Mariners starters allowed 1 earned run in 21 innings vs the Nationals. They got swept.

[Bregor]

Mariners starters allowed 1 earned run in 21 innings vs the Nationals. They got Smoak'd.

ftfy

[Cephius]

...and apparently that prompted Riggleman to resign as manager... what?

[Bregor]

...and apparently that prompted Riggleman to resign as manager... what?

Nats over .500, time to go watch a new bunch of kids play .350 ball.

Edit: In before Nats hire Don Zimmer, Don Baylor or Lou Pinella.

[Conrad]

Riggleman resigns, Flyers blow up their team, Iguodala being traded possibly and the Eagles want every FA under the sun...

SPORTS

Thank God I'm a baseball/football fan like a real American

[Bregor]

Riggleman resigns, Flyers blow up their team, Iguodala being traded possibly and the Eagles want every FA under the sun...

SPORTS

Thank God I'm a baseball/football fan like a real American

You left out McNabb working out with Eagles players.

Spoiler: show

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[*Shinzon*]

On Riggleman:

In a surprising move, Nationals manager Jim Riggleman has resigned, according to MLB.com's Bill Ladson (Twitter link). Riggleman stepped down after his club beat the Mariners this afternoon and improved to 38-37.

The manager, who was in the final year of his contract, told GM Mike Rizzo that he would resign if his contract situation wasn't resolved, according to Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post (Twitter link). Riggleman's agent, Burton Rocks, told Jon Heyman of SI.com that "they should have picked up the option" and that "it wore on Jim." Riggleman will manage again, according to his agent (Twitter link).

Rizzo had discussed picking up Riggleman's 2012 option, but felt the time wasn't right, according to Ben Goessling of MASNsports.com (Twitter links). The GM called Riggleman's decision "very disappointing to the players, fanbase, city and [himself]."

It's the second time this week that an NL East manager has resigned; Edwin Rodriguez of the Marlins stepped down over the weekend.

Basically the nats had an option on the contract that they didn't want to pick up and he was fed up with waiting in limbo.