Random Question Thread XX: The Aforementioned Goddamn Random Question Thread

[Cymmina]

I did the earth and light macc staves on my brd, just because it is better than HQ staves. Of course, you don't notice the extra macc at all. However, the macc staves have the extra benefit of -12% recast, which makes the light macc staff very good for whm, among other jobs.

With that said, they're all a pain in the ass to make and probably not worth the trouble.

Why would -12% recast be better than +2% cure potency for WHM, exactly? I use +2 empyrean body and the extra 2% matters.

I hadn't even thought to look at the bonus the M.Acc staves get on the +2 (damage has -12% cast time, perpetuation has -10 BPD). That makes Yama's (dark) a lot more attractive for sleeps, especially if you have to Manifestation them.

[Anso]

Don't remember which cat kills I have on my mule, is there a way to check?

[Martel]

Does anyone have any information on:

Telluric ring
[Ring] All Races
Resist Vs. Lightning +20
Lv. 50 All Jobs?

I'd think that it just wasn't in game yet, but the AH site shows a few sales on scattered servers. I assume it's crafted, but I can't find any info on recipe, etc.

[Raen Ryong]

Check titles with the Bard cat near the Warp Scroll NPC in PJ.

[Kimiko]

Does anyone have approximate proc rate on Orison +2 set bonus?

[Kalisa]

I'm interested in getting Atma of the Ultimate--fail LS never killed Ultima back in the day. How many reasonably-skilled level 90s would it take, starting from scratch, to get the whole thing (7 zones isn't it?) done? I have a duo for sure, a trio if I need to, and would be shouting for anything beyond that.

[Tahona]

rng merits
group 1
5/5 rapid shot
?/5 ????

group 2
5/5 snapshot
1/5 flashy
4/5 ????

thanks,
Tahona

[Atoreis]

I'm interested in getting Atma of the Ultimate--fail LS never killed Ultima back in the day. How many reasonably-skilled level 90s would it take, starting from scratch, to get the whole thing (7 zones isn't it?) done? I have a duo for sure, a trio if I need to, and would be shouting for anything beyond that.

3 is more then enough for triggers farm and probably for Ultima itself but idk what setup for Ultima tbh. For triggers farm its good to have some form of AoE sleep.

[detlef]

Why would -12% recast be better than +2% cure potency for WHM, exactly? I use +2 empyrean body and the extra 2% matters.

I hadn't even thought to look at the bonus the M.Acc staves get on the +2 (damage has -12% cast time, perpetuation has -10 BPD). That makes Yama's (dark) a lot more attractive for sleeps, especially if you have to Manifestation them.

I'm sure you meant 22% but anyway. There's more to whm than just curing. I was referring to reducing the recast of light-based non-cure spell. I have a macc Surya's Staff +2 and a cure potency Surya's Staff +1. No reason you can't do this.

Of course, it's useful for other jobs too, but whm sticks out the most.

Oh I see what you mean by the 2% now, but the point stands that you can reach 50% cure potency in many other ways.

[Cymmina]

I'm sure you meant 22% but anyway. There's more to whm than just curing. I was referring to reducing the recast of light-based non-cure spell. I have a macc Surya's Staff +2 and a cure potency Surya's Staff +1. No reason you can't do this.

Of course, it's useful for other jobs too, but whm sticks out the most.

Oh I see what you mean by the 2% now, but the point stands that you can reach 50% cure potency in many other ways.

An Orison Bliaud build only hits 49% with Surya's +2 (Serpentes Set gets you to 50%, but is inferior due to significant loss of MND).

[detlef]

With Atma of the Rescuer, that gives you some flexibility. I'm not sure what the optimal cure potency gear/atma combination is at the moment, but it's not unreasonable to cap cure potency without body.

Anyway, the point I was really trying to get across was that having -12% recast time is very useful.

[Cymmina]

With Atma of the Rescuer, that gives you some flexibility. I'm not sure what the optimal cure potency gear/atma combination is at the moment, but it's not unreasonable to cap cure potency without body.

Anyway, the point I was really trying to get across was that having -12% recast time is very useful.

I don't think you *have* made that point. Optimal build is a 49% Bliaud set with as many refresh atmas as you need with Savior and/or Allure for the rest. Rescuer is a poor atma choice for WHM. What is so important that a WHM needs to cast that they would sacrifice 2% cure potency for -12% recast? Esuna, that's about it.

[Atoreis]

I don't think you *have* made that point. Optimal build is a 49% Bliaud set with as many refresh atmas as you need with Savior and/or Allure for the rest. Rescuer is a poor atma choice for WHM. What is so important that a WHM needs to cast that they would sacrifice 2% cure potency for -12% recast? Esuna, that's about it.

Personaly I found Atma of the Apocalypse as the best for WHM just after MM.

[Ophannus]

I wanna get Surya staff on RDM for when Cure 5 comes out for them but 150 Beast Kills with light damage seems hard, Banish damage sucks.

[Fievel]

I wanna get Surya staff on RDM for when Cure 5 comes out for them but 150 Beast Kills with light damage seems hard, Banish damage sucks.

Ultimate, Beyond, and MM atma in abyssea ltp, I did the tigers and was doing over 1k with banish 3 and holy, went very fast.

[Kidnoftle]

I'm interested in getting Atma of the Ultimate--fail LS never killed Ultima back in the day. How many reasonably-skilled level 90s would it take, starting from scratch, to get the whole thing (7 zones isn't it?) done? I have a duo for sure, a trio if I need to, and would be shouting for anything beyond that.

Could maybe do ultima w/ 3 if you have empys. Even then mp would be tight assuming your stunning on the x9% and dealing with CB at the end. I know ultima was done w/ 5 @ 75 so 3 @ 90 really wouldnt be outlandish.

[Kimiko]

I'm interested in getting Atma of the Ultimate--fail LS never killed Ultima back in the day. How many reasonably-skilled level 90s would it take, starting from scratch, to get the whole thing (7 zones isn't it?) done? I have a duo for sure, a trio if I need to, and would be shouting for anything beyond that.

Three-manning would be seriously pushing it due to buster/draw-in during the final stage along with random phys/magic shields. I'd say least a full party to be safe, a good stunner is a must for dissipation.

[Mohit]

Has anyone dropped their emote torque and tried to re-obtain them? I want to know for sure I can get them again in case SE does something crazy like make them upgradable to a higher level with better stats in the future. However, 20 torques takes up a bunch of room.

[detlef]

I don't think you *have* made that point. Optimal build is a 49% Bliaud set with as many refresh atmas as you need with Savior and/or Allure for the rest. Rescuer is a poor atma choice for WHM. What is so important that a WHM needs to cast that they would sacrifice 2% cure potency for -12% recast? Esuna, that's about it.

You probably play whm more than I do so I will defer to you, but I just want to make a few points.

I am also often waiting on my Esuna timer, but also there are many times when you'll want to be spamming Flash, Holy, Banish3 and the like for obvious reasons. It'll allow you to recast the 10 second recast -na spells a second faster as well as Erase.

I find too that when I'm curing I'm very often overcuring. How often do whm not get "full value" for their cures? Is cureskin value based on the actual HP cured or the amount that the cure would have done? Anyway, I get that cure potency is lovely, but if you're just using Cure V the moment the tank goes into yellow as is often the case, can't the case be made that the usefulness of that 2% cure potency is lost?

Anyway, even though I said this staff is great for whm, I originally got it for my brd before I even finished whm. Recast is especially nice since Foe Lullaby II isn't affected by Lullaby merits.

So yeah, maybe I didn't convince anybody to finish the +2 macc staff, which is fine because it's an enormous hassle. If you want to argue that it's not worth the effort I won't disagree. But it's definitely useful.

[arus2001]

In the past I've seen mention of a way to send a command from one FFXI window to another on the same machine to make it do whatever. What does one need for that?