Random Question Thread XX: The Aforementioned Goddamn Random Question Thread

[Aureus]

Also what is the dual wield cap? I heard 80% but how does one get to that? Does that cap factor in haste samba/haste/haste from gear or just certain ones? (traits and things enhancing traits affect it I know)

There is no cap on dual wield as far as I know. There is, however, a delay reduction cap of 80%. For example, if you have 50% dual wield, and 40% haste, you have (1-.50)*(1-.40) = 0.3 delay multiplier, which is a 70% delay reduction. Anything beyond 60% haste would have no effect, unless you removed some dual wield gear.

[Mohit]

I used pld/whm and diaga a group of mobs and tank them all away from the martello. with buffs u generally survive til most all the mobs are dead. I target weaker mobs and WS them as well to help kill faster while getting shield tp to spam more WSs. Apoc/RR/GH

[Pandorablue]

Sorry, I know this isn't really a tech support thread, but I figure this is XI-related enough and that I'd more likely get an answer here.

Relating to a problem I posted earlier in the thread, I believe I've determined that the problem lies with blocked ports on my router, so I'm manually opening them to see if it corrects the issue.

I've found all the ports needed for FFXI, the only one I'm having trouble with is the range of ports for the game itself (TCP/UDP 50000-65535). My router's page asks for the Internal Host IP, Protocol, External Port (with option to enter a range) and Internal Port. I don't know what the hell to enter for Internal Port for a range, since it only allows me to enter one port number (no range). Does anyone here know what the heck I should enter for Internal Port for the 50000-65535 range? I've literally been scouring the internet for this info for days to no avail.

[Mrbeansman]

Anyone got that pic that Tsuko made of how to tank Dark Ixion with Samurai jack and the chick from Kill Bill?

[Soho]

There is no cap on dual wield as far as I know. There is, however, a delay reduction cap of 80%. For example, if you have 50% dual wield, and 40% haste, you have (1-.50)*(1-.40) = 0.3 delay multiplier, which is a 70% delay reduction. Anything beyond 60% haste would have no effect, unless you removed some dual wield gear.

Those numbers seem to be the common setup for NIN these days right?

Please correct me if anything I'm saying below is wrong:
50% Dual Wield: 35 Trait, 5 Suppanomimi, 5 Iga Zukin +2, 5 Ninja Chainmail +1
40% Haste: 25 Gear, 15 Haste Spell
So adding just Victory March (@15%) won't quite hit cap, but with 2x March you go over cap.

My gear question is:
When does Iga Ningi +2 become better than Ninja Chainmail +1?

Does the 5% Dual Wield really mean more total damage than 23 Attack and 5%+ Crit right up until you have Haste and 2x Marches?

[Kaope]

So like, my old group needs me to be blu for abyssea events.

1) There are 2 fire element spells (For yellow !!), Firespit and Heat Breath. My question is : to trigger the "!!", does it need any either Firespit or Heat Breath (As long as it's fire based)? Or it's specific?

2) What blu spells do people equip nowadays?

PS: Do people bother to bring too many gears for blu? I used to carry TP, WS, multihit spells set, mnd set only. Anything I should be gearing up for as well?

[Pandorablue]

1) There are 2 fire element spells (For yellow !!), Firespit and Heat Breath. My question is : to trigger the "!!", does it need any either Firespit or Heat Breath (As long as it's fire based)? Or it's specific?

I can't answer your other questions, as I am not a BLU, but the way yellow !! works is it loads an element based on the current vana'diel day, and then from that element it picks from one of 8 potential spells. This means that for a particular element it could be either BLU spell.

HOWEVER, if you've been keeping up with the update notes recently, you'd know that in 21 days, they're removing half the BLU proc spellls anyway.

[shepardG]

What's the most effective way to earn Nyzul points if one were to do a mythic? spamming 95-100? starting at the bottom and working up?

[Fereydoon]

Having someone take you to 95 and doing as many floors possible seems best. 95-5 gets you a 2-3k tokens? I think? With the armband.

[Cymmina]

What's the most effective way to earn Nyzul points if one were to do a mythic? spamming 95-100? starting at the bottom and working up?

You should be able to do 10 floors in one go no problem at 90. We did Nyzul with 5 recently and did 10 floors with 10 minutes remaining (so if we really pushed, we probably could have done 15 floors per tag). So lower floors might be better if you go that route? Wiki has a nice chart on profit ratio:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ny..._Investigation

[Tribe]

Those numbers seem to be the common setup for NIN these days right?

Please correct me if anything I'm saying below is wrong:
50% Dual Wield: 35 Trait, 5 Suppanomimi, 5 Iga Zukin +2, 5 Ninja Chainmail +1
40% Haste: 25 Gear, 15 Haste Spell
So adding just Victory March (@15%) won't quite hit cap, but with 2x March you go over cap.

My gear question is:
When does Iga Ningi +2 become better than Ninja Chainmail +1?

Does the 5% Dual Wield really mean more total damage than 23 Attack and 5%+ Crit right up until you have Haste and 2x Marches?

Dual wield cap I thought was assumed to be 50%,

But yea there is a nice chart like 4 random threads back, But once you get dual marches you only need 40% dual wield. so traits + Helm, you can then swap the body out for the +2 and not even need suppa. and I also think even haste samba+spell you can have 45% Dual wield + 25% haste and still be at the 80% cap.

It would be worth searching back for it if you really want solid information. There is also the formula to figure out any combination of haste / dw to hit the 80% cap on reduced delay

[Skie]

Been seeing the talk about CDC build and im just wondering why would you go with epona's ring over thundersoul / rajas ring or brutal over x2 thunder perals, or atheling mantle over nifty mantle? is the goal to stock up da/ta and hope it procs on ws instead of increasing over all dmg?

[Atoreis]

Been seeing the talk about CDC build and im just wondering why would you go with epona's ring over thundersoul / rajas ring or brutal over x2 thunder perals, or atheling mantle over nifty mantle? is the goal to stock up da/ta and hope it procs on ws instead of increasing over all dmg?

You kinda answered yourself. The point is to increase avarage damage and both atheling and Epona's are better (Epona's even outside abyssea tho by much lower margin)

[noodles355]

How long does it take for a pop NM to depop after it goes idle and DoT wears? I thought it was 3 minutes, and my LS says it's 3 mins (though say 2 to give you time to reapply dot if zombieing like on AV etc). But Seiryu just depopped on me after 2. 50:11 bio wears, 52:09 depop.

(Inb4 lol@wiping to sky gods. Meh, 2box Thf+Whm. Killed him before, but this time got very unlucky with Dispelling Wind>Aeroga III>Deadly Dive back to back.)

[Ocara]

How long does it take for a pop NM to depop after it goes idle and DoT wears? I thought it was 3 minutes, and my LS says it's 3 mins (though say 2 to give you time to reapply dot if zombieing like on AV etc). But Seiryu just depopped on me after 2. 50:11 bio wears, 52:09 depop.

(Inb4 lol@wiping to sky gods. Meh, 2box Thf+Whm. Killed him before, but this time got very unlucky with Dispelling Wind>Aeroga III>Deadly Dive back to back.)

I don't think the depop timer starts when DoT wears, DoT just extends the timer if it's still got DoT beyond when it would have depopped. If it went idle and lost DoT before 3 mins was up, it would depop @3 mins from idle.

Then again I haven't needed to zombie enough nms to really know all the details.

[cdgreg]

So like, my old group needs me to be blu for abyssea events.

1) There are 2 fire element spells (For yellow !!), Firespit and Heat Breath. My question is : to trigger the "!!", does it need any either Firespit or Heat Breath (As long as it's fire based)? Or it's specific?

2) What blu spells do people equip nowadays?

PS: Do people bother to bring too many gears for blu? I used to carry TP, WS, multihit spells set, mnd set only. Anything I should be gearing up for as well?

I have a blu mule that I generally bring blu/thf for grellow trigger. He's naked except for HQ light staff since I tend to have a problem landing 1000 needles. I also merited Efflux to max for an "elemental seal" of sorts. Here is the current list, you can see the BLU spells you'll need at the end of each. Remember it has to land (even 0 dmg is ok, just has to show up in log) and can not be during mobs TP or casting:

GRELLOW (DAY BEFORE + CURRENT DAY + DAY AFTER) :
Lightsday: Holy, Banish 2, Banish 3, Banishga 2, Flash, Dark Threnody, Radiant Breath - X, 1000 Needles
Darksday: Bio 2, Aspir, Dispel , Drain, Kurayami:Ni, Light Threnody, Death Ray, Eyes On Me
Firesday: Fire 3, Fire 4, Firaga 3, Flare, Katon:Ni, Ice Threnody, Heat Breath - x, Firespit
Earthsday: Stone 3, Stone 4, Stonega 3, Quake, Doton:Ni, Lightning Threnody, Magnetite Cloud, Seedspray
Watersday: Water 3, Water 4, Waterga 3, Flood, Suiton:Ni, Fire Threnody, Maelstrom, Regurgitation
Windsday: Aero 3, Aero 4, Aeroga 3, Tornado, Huton:Ni, Earth Threnody, Hecatomb Wave, Mysterious Light
Icesday: Blizzard 3, Blizzard 4, Blizzaga 3, Freeze, Hyoton:Ni, Wind Threnody, Frost Breath, Ice Break
Lightningsday: Thuder 3, Thunder 4, Thundaga 3, Burst, Raiton:Ni, Water Threnody, Mind blast, Blitzstrahl

[Ocara]

He's naked except for HQ earth and light staves since I tend to have a problem landing seedpsray

Seedspray is physical, using a staff isn't helping you there. In fact you're making it harder.

[cdgreg]

Seedspray is physical, using a staff isn't helping you there. In fact you're making it harder.

Oh shit. thanks. I'll edit my above post

edit: and also sell the terra's, woot!

[Ophannus]

Quickest way to kill 300 Puks solo with a D44 weapon for OAT Polearm Trial? :/

[cdgreg]

Quickest way to kill 300 Puks solo with a D44 weapon for OAT Polearm Trial? :/

For puks on mule dagger trial, where I also NEEDED wind weather, I did the ones in either wajam or bhauf near whitegate. It's the group people used to EXP on. There weren't enough to kill constantly but I did something else for the minute while waiting for repops.

I'm sure abyssea with a few friends on Peapuks near #6 would be a lot faster, but if you want to grind it out alone the above option works.