Random Question Thread XX: The Aforementioned Goddamn Random Question Thread

[Fereydoon]

I leveled RDM a few weeks ago and have it geared up decently, but my Enhancing Magic skill is really straggling behind. It's sitting at roughly 80 levels under the cap. I usually play THF or BLM in Abyssea, so I'm not getting much in the way of skillups by actually playing the job.

Is there a quick way to level Enhancing Magic that doesn't involve sitting outside town (or by the Port Jeuno AH if I feel like being a jackass!) for hours spamming spells? I tried spamming spells on myself, but I can't stop myself from wandering off after about 10-15 minutes of mind-melting boredom.

Make a windower script that spams bar spells, go to abyssea paradox and set refresh atma, sit in a corner. Or spam warp II on people. A lot.

[Atoreis]

I meant the Caller's Horn +2 would be better then the Garuda Headband, if her perp is floored it'll add to your refresh. Set you posted has an ice perp staff, if you don't have a dark one it'd help. Given you said rope would add nothing I'm going to assume you do.

Well forgot to mention that Vayu staff is there only to show I will use magian staffs for - perp cost but ofc I have a plan to make - perp staff for every or most avatars. (I'm doing summoner on my other char is currently 8lv so we are "speaking" theoretically here :D)

I am considering to make Nirvana for him after Gjallahorn but I'm still undecided between Nirvana, Yagrush and Carnwenhan and most likely I will finish Ghorn around 95 cap so I will decide after checking how will 95 versions look like.

[Eeeks]

Make a windower script that spams bar spells, go to abyssea paradox and set refresh atma, sit in a corner. Or spam warp II on people. A lot.

A Refresh Atma isn't necessary since Barspells are cheap and my RDM gets 11MP/tick from Refresh2 and gear, so I can go hide like a sissy in some God-forsaken corner of the world. Thanks for the repeating script suggestion, though. I'll have a go at writing one after a little research.

[Nishida]

I have a similar new account/character level/mission progression question.

Here is my current plan:

WHM to 18
BLM to 37
WHM to 49
BLM to 49
RDM to 90
WAR to 18
NIN to 37
WAR to 25
NIN to 49
BLM to 90
SCH to 90? Not sure if it's worth having w/ RDM and BLM lvled. Thoughts?

Note: I do not want WHM at 90+ because I don't like being a heal/buff bot. I know RDM does this, but there is a lot more you can do with RDM up to and including soloing stuff.


Rank 1 -> Rank 6 for Airship?

Sky to Abyssal (Or possibly Suppa for melee later on? They worth getting for 90/99?)

COP to Tamas (I doubt this is worth it..should I get a Rajas for possible melee or are they needed anymore at 90/99?)

TOAU to Balrahn's (Is this worth doing anymore? Great ring at 75..at 90/99?)

Nyzul..not sure if this is worth doing anymore..hope not it was a pain..

Skip Campaign

WotG Missions..not sure here..what is needed if anything?

I plan on wearing AH gear with a few easier to get r/ex like AF1 until AF3 etc. Skipping AF2 because...screw Dynamis.

[Fereydoon]

Well forgot to mention that Vayu staff is there only to show I will use magian staffs for - perp cost but ofc I have a plan to make - perp staff for every or most avatars. (I'm doing summoner on my other char is currently 8lv so we are "speaking" theoretically here :D)

I am considering to make Nirvana for him after Gjallahorn but I'm still undecided between Nirvana, Yagrush and Carnwenhan and most likely I will finish Ghorn around 95 cap so I will decide after checking how will 95 versions look like.

I want a Nirvana so bad. If I did get one it'd probably stay 85 forever though. After the hell to get Sarameya to drop the quest item I'd probably not want to do it again. It's so hard to find Alexandrite, though. I also never did Einherjar when it was big, so it'd be a hassle to get odin title/ichor.

A Refresh Atma isn't necessary since Barspells are cheap and my RDM gets 11MP/tick from Refresh2 and gear, so I can go hide like a sissy in some God-forsaken corner of the world. Thanks for the repeating script suggestion, though. I'll have a go at writing one after a little research.

I forgot RDM can get super refresh. I suggest under the castle in sandy! Tons of useless rooms no one will ever go into!

I have a similar new account/character level/mission progression question.

Here is my current plan:

WHM to 18
BLM to 37
WHM to 49
BLM to 49
RDM to 90
WAR to 18
NIN to 37
WAR to 25
NIN to 49
BLM to 90
SCH to 90? Not sure if it's worth having w/ RDM and BLM lvled. Thoughts?

Note: I do not want WHM at 90+ because I don't like being a heal/buff bot. I know RDM does this, but there is a lot more you can do with RDM up to and including soloing stuff.


Rank 1 -> Rank 6 for Airship?

Sky to Abyssal (Or possibly Suppa for melee later on? They worth getting for 90/99?)

COP to Tamas (I doubt this is worth it..should I get a Rajas for possible melee or are they needed anymore at 90/99?)

TOAU to Balrahn's (Is this worth doing anymore? Great ring at 75..at 90/99?)

Nyzul..not sure if this is worth doing anymore..hope not it was a pain..

Skip Campaign

WotG Missions..not sure here..what is needed if anything?

I plan on wearing AH gear with a few easier to get r/ex like AF1 until AF3 etc. Skipping AF2 because...screw Dynamis.

Suppa and Rajas are the only choices. You can get a Tamas until you get a job that can make use of it, but unless you desire doing DM twice, pick Suppa. Nyzul is only really worth doing if you want an mythic WS's. Balrahn's is worth it for anything assault like, or if MAcc is needed. (Not currently, but you'll never know). WotG missions give you a Moonshade Earring, you can pick the augments on it, one of which being refresh (As long as your weapon isn't drawn.).

You'd need Rank 6 to start Zilart anyway, so do that. They're supposed to be revamping dynamis in the upcoming update, so it might no be nearly as awful to get the 2-3 useful af2 pieces.

As for SCH, I leveled it, then did BLM, and haven't been on it since. If you have RDM and BLM I can't see SCH being all that useful to have.

[Atoreis]

Yeah, well while I am doing Gjallahorn now I am also slowly working on mythic. Doing Ein 2times/week (Odin next Wednesday), Nyzul isn't hard when you are farming tokens because you can make much more then 5 floors, spamming salvage with avg 100 Alex per run, Toau kings will be a joke with my Ochain/Almace combo. Most annoying will be spamming ZNMs or should I say taking photos because fighting ZNMs itself will probably be a lot of fun with all that gear I got since 80 cap update.

[Fereydoon]

Yeah, well while I am doing Gjallahorn now I am also slowly working on mythic. Doing Ein 2times/week (Odin next Wednesday), Nyzul isn't hard when you are farming tokens because you can make much more then 5 floors, spamming salvage with avg 100 Alex per run, Toau kings will be a joke with my Ochain/Almace combo. Most annoying will be spamming ZNMs or should I say taking photos because fighting ZNMs itself will probably be a lot of fun with all that gear I got since 80 cap update.

I should probably start taking pictures in my spare time, try and stock pile as much Zeni before I start doing it.

Actually, my question now. Can Ein be reasonably done with 6-7? I can always grab more people for Odin. How much Ichor/run do you usually get?

[Nishida]

Suppa and Rajas are the only choices. You can get a Tamas until you get a job that can make use of it, but unless you desire doing DM twice, pick Suppa.

Makes sense, and this is what I figured, but are they worth having at 90/99? If so I will definitely do the missions.

Nyzul is only really worth doing if you want an mythic WS's.

Hmm..Death Blossom for increased MACC can be handy in non-abyssea. I dunno if it's worth doing Nyzul for though.

Balrahn's is worth it for anything assault like, or if MAcc is needed. (Not currently, but you'll never know).

So MACC isn't needed? What the hell?

WotG missions give you a Moonshade Earring, you can pick the augments on it, one of which being refresh (As long as your weapon isn't drawn.).

That sounds nifty..does the refresh stack with the spell and other things like af2 hat?

You'd need Rank 6 to start Zilart anyway, so do that. They're supposed to be revamping dynamis in the upcoming update, so it might no be nearly as awful to get the 2-3 useful af2 pieces.

Hmm..we'll see. Is AF2 even worth having with AF3?

As for SCH, I leveled it, then did BLM, and haven't been on it since. If you have RDM and BLM I can't see SCH being all that useful to have.

Figured. Is /RDM or /SCH better on BLM? Assuming /RDM. And /SCH on RDM? Worth having? If not I won't even bother with the sub.

[Byrthnoth]

Yeah, well while I am doing Gjallahorn now I am also slowly working on mythic. Doing Ein 2times/week (Odin next Wednesday), Nyzul isn't hard when you are farming tokens because you can make much more then 5 floors, spamming salvage with avg 100 Alex per run, Toau kings will be a joke with my Ochain/Almace combo. Most annoying will be spamming ZNMs or should I say taking photos because fighting ZNMs itself will probably be a lot of fun with all that gear I got since 80 cap update.

100 Alex per day, 30000 Alex total, a year of taking all the Alexandrite from your Salvage runs to get a Mythic. Also, 100 per run is high unless you're doing nothing but spamming SSR. I'm doing the other stuff, but waiting until they patch Salvage/Mythics before I do that part.

[Atoreis]

How you figured out that af3+2 is a replace for af2 for RDM?

af2 has refresh af3+2 not.
af2 body has fast cast, af3+2 not.
af2 gloves are for enhancing, af3 for enfeebling.

[Fereydoon]

Makes sense, and this is what I figured, but are they worth having at 90/99? If so I will definitely do the missions.


Hmm..Death Blossom for increased MACC can be handy in non-abyssea. I dunno if it's worth doing Nyzul for though.


So MACC isn't needed? What the hell?

That sounds nifty..does the refresh stack with the spell and other things like af2 hat?

Hmm..we'll see. Is AF2 even worth having with AF3?

Figured. Is /RDM or /SCH better on BLM? Assuming /RDM. And /SCH on RDM? Worth having? If not I won't even bother with the sub.

Suppa/Rajas are still best in slot for their purposes. No other ring has STP+5, no other earring has DW+5.

Nyzul has goliard stuff, not sure if any of it is any good anymore. Nyzul can be really easily three manned, though. You can bum rush as many floors as possible. On a good day we got 10/tag.

Most things inside abyssea don't resist anything they aren't immune to, or atma can cover it if it's really needed. Outside nothing is high enough to warrant it.

Refresh earring does stack with any type of refresh gear/spell.

AF2 hat is still lovely, as is the body. For RDM at least. Hat + earring + +2body + serpentes + refresh subligar is 6/tic idling, assuming I'm not missing a slot.

BLM/RDM, RDM/SCH has uses. Certain solos, crowd control. Up to you if you think it's worth it.

[Nishida]

The one thing I DIDN'T want to do again was get AF2 because of how retarded it was getting a hat when everyone wanted one and you had to wait for your shell to do that zone to even get a shot at it for whoever was in line. Are they pretty much easy to get now? I'm willing to put in the work to get the gear I need for RDM, but I'm also going to complain about it the whole way haha.

Also..if the melee options from sky/sea are the ones worth getting and I'm going mage mostly..clearly the items can wait. That said..is there a reason to go to sky/sea/toau as a 90/99 currently (not talking about for shits n giggles of soloing stuff..more if I still NEED access for any reason)

Again..willing to put in the work if it's needed just would rather not if they aren't needed.

[Atoreis]

100 Alex per day, 30000 Alex total, a year of taking all the Alexandrite from your Salvage runs to get a Mythic. Also, 100 per run is high unless you're doing nothing but spamming SSR. I'm doing the other stuff, but waiting until they patch Salvage/Mythics before I do that part.

I meant, I'm not buying Alex now because I'm buying currency for Ghorn. Alexs from salvage spam are only a bonus before I finish Ghorn. Yes we mostly spams SSR since last week, we don't need anything from salvage anymore (4/6 on usu body from turtle btw lol). Since I need like 94k points from Ein, even doing 2 times a week the avg will be 1500 so about 30 weeks. Assuming 400 Alex per week and rounding down it's about 10000 Alex from farm. 1/3 less to buy is pretty good imo I don't think they will ever change the number of Alex needed. They never do it because that's unfair for ppl who paid for it already. They can add other ways to get Alexs tho.

[Fereydoon]

The one thing I DIDN'T want to do again was get AF2 because of how retarded it was getting a hat when everyone wanted one and you had to wait for your shell to do that zone to even get a shot at it for whoever was in line. Are they pretty much easy to get now? I'm willing to put in the work to get the gear I need for RDM, but I'm also going to complain about it the whole way haha.

Last update or the update before that they raised dyna drop rates, their revamping dynamis in a couple weeks so there might be enough renewed interest to grab a hat and flee. It should be faster to get wins and such as well, given you can enter once a day when they change it, unless they make getting boss pops obscenely annoying.

[Atoreis]

The one thing I DIDN'T want to do again was get AF2 because of how retarded it was getting a hat when everyone wanted one and you had to wait for your shell to do that zone to even get a shot at it for whoever was in line. Are they pretty much easy to get now? I'm willing to put in the work to get the gear I need for RDM, but I'm also going to complain about it the whole way haha.

Well you can get refresh hairpin from abyssea too. Af2 now have better drop rate and you can farm the zone in a party but you can also wait till patch and easy solo it for free.

[kamugi]

NIN: Ideal Hi set for outside abyssea? (already know the good stuff for inside)

First let me say I'm pretty jealous of an inherited masa/kannagi account!
Second, I just finished what is probably the best possible generic outside abyssea set, you might want a bit more dex if you're not a mithra.
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/197128

Basic idea is to cap dDEX and get as much +crit rate as possible for Hi.

[Nishida]

Sounds good.

If the melee options from sky/sea are the ones worth getting and I'm going mage mostly..clearly the items can wait. That said..is there a reason to go to sky/sea/toau as a 90/99 currently (not talking about for shits n giggles of soloing stuff..more if I still NEED access for any reason)

Again..willing to put in the work if it's needed just would rather not if they aren't needed.

[Fereydoon]

Sounds good.

If the melee options from sky/sea are the ones worth getting and I'm going mage mostly..clearly the items can wait. That said..is there a reason to go to sky/sea/toau as a 90/99 currently (not talking about for shits n giggles of soloing stuff..more if I still NEED access for any reason)

Again..willing to put in the work if it's needed just would rather not if they aren't needed.

Genbu's Shield to be used with Owleyes (refresh club). Crimson Pants, Novio ( can be bought as well), Obis.

[Atoreis]

Sky: W legs, W hands, W feet (if you care for resist stuff), genbu shield
Sea: Novio (can buy), Justice sword (if you care for melee on RDM)

@Fereydoon Get out of my head! Also RDM can't use Owleyes (unless I am missing something and Nishida is doing soemthing beside RDM?) but Genbu's is still very good option if you take hate.

[Nishida]

Welp guess I'm redoing everything haha. Cept maybe ToAU..we'll see on that one.