Random Question Thread XX: The Aforementioned Goddamn Random Question Thread

[Fereydoon]

Welp guess I'm redoing everything haha. Cept maybe ToAU..we'll see on that one.

If it helps most of it can be solo/duo'd! Only big annoyance is all the walking. Mostly CoP wise. SOMUCHWALKING But, in case you missed it for whatever reason, CoP caps are dead. So the only thing remotely challenging is anything in sea, Tenzen maybe, and Snoll Tzar maybe. Simply because you're timed on those.

[Byrthnoth]

Do magian weapon bonuses like TP bonus, or WS damage work off hand?

TP Bonus +100 weapons actually do work offhand, if we are to believe an official forum's WAR.

[kamugi]

TP Bonus +100 weapons actually do work offhand, if we are to believe an official forum's WAR.

How stupid does this official forums warrior seem? based on his other posts.

[Byrthnoth]

How stupid does this official forums warrior seem? based on his other posts.

Grammar and spelling-wise, he's not winning awards. But he repeated the correct testing procedure back to me when I asked him about it and replied with several other facts that I already knew to be true:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ll=1#post76104

I don't know, I was convinced that it's probably true, and considering how few applications for the information there are, I don't think it's worth doing like 3000 WSs to verify his findings and end up with a worthless weapon.


Unrelated:
Recently I heard that some ENMs are still capped at 75. True?

[Aureus]

Unrelated:
Recently I heard that some ENMs are still capped at 75. True?

Yeah, ENM caps never changed, the ones which were 75 cap before the level increase are still 75 cap.

[Vriska]

At what point does INT start to approach MAB in terms of worth? I ask because I've observed that Heavenly Strike coming from Shiva, using Atma sets of Beyond/Minikin/Ultimate and Beyond/Baying Moon/Ultimate was roughly the same. Certainly there wasn't a large gap in favour of the latter set. And 50 INT =/= 30 MAB. Or does it?

[Nishida]

What are the current "must have" jobs for Abyssea content?

[Fereydoon]

What are the current "must have" jobs for Abyssea content?

NIN, MNK, BLM, WHM, BLU, THF, WAR are currently the most popular. BRD is nice as usual, but any triggers it has can be gotten /brd and ele sealed.

[Nishida]

Two more questions and I will stop bothering you guys!

With Voidwatch being introduced I take it that other jobs will become just as useful again?

Crafting..worth doing anymore? Fishing take 10 yrs to level still? Synergy awesome?

[Fereydoon]

Two more questions and I will stop bothering you guys!

With Voidwatch being introduced I take it that other jobs will become just as useful again?

Crafting..worth doing anymore? Fishing take 10 yrs to level still? Synergy awesome?

Job usefulness always ebbs and flows, we'll only know how useful certain jobs will be for Voidwatch when it comes out. Anything that was good outside of Abyssea only got better. Level whatever you want, at least one of the jobs is bound to be useful.

Crafting isn't really worth it at the moment, save Cooking for food and maybe Alchemy for meds. If it creates consumables there's a market for it. Things like Clothcraft that create gear won't make you nearly as much money. Synergy is really easy to level, and not all that expensive. Kind of dull to do, though. It's something that's bound to be useful, given the way they seems to want to augment old gear. I can't speak for fishing, I've never really done it. It'll make you constant money, though.

Edit: Gil its self isn't as useful at the moment, as most new gear is R/Ex. But you're starting over so you'd need to buy spells and such. Fishing is a good bet, cheap to do and makes ok money. Once you get into abyssea there's a lot of ways to make money, farming NM pops or NPCing augmented gear and such.

[Nishida]

Job usefulness always ebbs and flows, we'll only know how useful certain jobs will be for Voidwatch when it comes out. Anything that was good outside of Abyssea only got better. Level whatever you want, at least one of the jobs is bound to be useful.

Crafting isn't really worth it at the moment, save Cooking for food and maybe Alchemy for meds. If it creates consumables there's a market for it. Things like Clothcraft that create gear won't make you nearly as much money. Synergy is really easy to level, and not all that expensive. Kind of dull to do, though. It's something that's bound to be useful, given the way they seems to want to augment old gear. I can't speak for fishing, I've never really done it. It'll make you constant money, though.

Edit: Gil its self isn't as useful at the moment, as most new gear is R/Ex. But you're starting over so you'd need to buy spells and such. Fishing is a good bet, cheap to do and makes ok money. Once you get into abyssea there's a lot of ways to make money, farming NM pops or NPCing augmented gear and such.

Sucks that the game is so Abyssea centric atm. Hopefully it balances out. Thanks for the info!

[Wortie]

Tahrongi Canyon Emp farming, what's the fastest way (with 7-8 chars), when doing Chloris+Glavoid together.

Kill all the NMs for KIs with capped Amber and hope for extra KIs from chests?
Cleave NMs for KIs and when most sets are finished, go kill any NMs needed to finish them.

Would be nice to hear others opinions.

[Fievel]

Tahrongi Canyon Emp farming, what's the fastest way (with 7-8 chars), when doing Chloris+Glavoid together.

Kill all the NMs for KIs with capped Amber and hope for extra KIs from chests?
Cleave NMs for KIs and when most sets are finished, go kill any NMs needed to finish them.

Would be nice to hear others opinions.

It's debatable but I've always believed it to be faster to just cleave if you're working on both Glavoid and Chloris and have a decent size of people(7-8 should be fine), then do NM's once you're down to needing only a few.

Definitely much faster just getting red !! on NM's if you're working on only one of the two, though.

[Fievel]

Anybody mind sharing typical COR gear sets? Just finished gems/lanterns for armageddon but still need to level the job from 75 to 90 and I realized I have no idea what to really wear anymore on it other than the obvious.

Edit: Meh double post sorry

[Byrthnoth]

It's debatable but I've always believed it to be faster to just cleave if you're working on both Glavoid and Chloris and have a decent size of people(7-8 should be fine), then do NM's once you're down to needing only a few.

Definitely much faster just getting red !! on NM's if you're working on only one of the two, though.

I got 7 Chloris sets and 5 Glavoid sets yesterday solo Aeolian Edging for 4-5 hours. I got one KI off the scorpion to complete a Chloris. I don't know how NM farming compares to that. I'd consider it, I guess, but I'm less than dedicated to the idea of really making Ukon and I'd like a Crit Wivre gorget back.

I trade Chloris sets to someone for Glavoids and already had a Chloris stockpiled on a mule, so 13 Glavoids in 4-5 hours isn't that bad, I think! I can kill most of the Coeurls (one or two always escape because of stupid sight agro, and bats always have some solo player leveling them up) once every 5 minutes.

[Fievel]

I got 7 Chloris sets and 5 Glavoid sets yesterday solo Aeolian Edging for 4-5 hours. I got one KI off the scorpion to complete a Chloris. I don't know how NM farming compares to that. I trade Chloris sets to someone for Glavoids and already had a Chloris stockpiled on a mule, so 13 Glavoids in 4-5 hours isn't that bad, I think! I can kill most of the Coeurls (one or two always escape because of stupid sight agro, and bats always have some solo player leveling them up) once every 5 minutes.

I typically cleave coeurls too, average about the same amount of pops really.

When I solo glavoid pops I can typically finish 3 glavoids in 50min(I buy the items to pop the NM's)

I guess if you're able to trade pops with someone theyre both about even, cleaving being the better one because you can get cruor and such, but most of the time on Fenrir I'm the only one in the zone or the one other group in there is doing both glavoid/chloris, so I can't trade pops.

[Mercilessturtle]

Figured. Is /RDM or /SCH better on BLM? Assuming /RDM. And /SCH on RDM? Worth having? If not I won't even bother with the sub.

Default sub for blm is /sch, same for rdm. Rdm subs /nin for shadows, /blm for stun, /whm for stona, otherwise /sch. Blm gets stuck /brd if you don't have enough people to bring a brd, otherwise /sch. There's nothing to gravity, and phalanx doesn't matter unless you are pulling for a cleave. Even if /sch weren't competitive in mp recovery (it is) it would be worth using just for alacrity AM for triggering grellow.

[Byrthnoth]

At the moment I'm lucky. There are two groups I know that are only interested in Chloris, so I can probably crank out the Glavoid stage of Ukon pretty quickly.

Side question:
Does Red vs. Blue chest rate affect Gold chest rate? For some reason I thought Kirschy showed Gold chest rate was constant regardless of your ratio of Red to Blue, but I'm at loss to find it. Just wondering if I can get my key/KI helpers better xp/hr.

[Fievel]

At the moment I'm lucky. There are two groups I know that are only interested in Chloris, so I can probably crank out the Glavoid stage of Ukon pretty quickly.

Side question:
Does Red vs. Blue chest rate affect Gold chest rate? For some reason I thought Kirschy showed Gold chest rate was constant regardless of your ratio of Red to Blue, but I'm at loss to find it. Just wondering if I can get my key/KI helpers better xp/hr.

Never heard that, but if it's true that's pretty awesome. Wasn't there a thread about abyssea lights a bit ago? Probably in there.

[Fereydoon]

Best way to go about obtaining Zeni? Can Ein be reasonably done with 6-7?