Random Question Thread XX: The Aforementioned Goddamn Random Question Thread

[Yugl]

Because I had them since before Abyssea and macc still useful for head butt/1k needles (which obviously going away soon). Not to mention content coming out soon that will bring us outside of atma/cruor buffs. BA recast is just useless. Only use would be for AOEing but you almost aways have it ready for the next pull...

So what I'm getting is...
1. Magic ACC for things that don't need it currently (Or have minor utility in the case of 1k where people usually try to cap magic acc).
2. Speculation about BLU's needs in future content.
3. BA's use is for AOE, which is actually a primary function of BLU apart from yellow triggers and perhaps tanking the NM for said triggers

I had those merits before Abyssea too, but I can't justify them now when I get a lot of XP.

[Draylo]

So what I'm getting is...
1. Magic ACC for things that don't need it currently (Or have minor utility in the case of 1k where people usually try to cap magic acc).
2. Speculation about BLU's needs in future content.
3. BA's use is for AOE, which is actually a primary function of BLU apart from yellow triggers and perhaps tanking the NM for said triggers

I had those merits before Abyssea too, but I can't justify them now when I get a lot of XP.

BA recast is useless. By the time you have gathered up another batch to AOE, it will be up already or from 2hr chest. No application anywhere else.

[Radec]

Just for lulz; popped rumi during blunt, had 14/15 WS's and of course it's the 1/15 black halo lol.


edit: I suck at SC, how can I make level 3 with hexa + mule on thf or nin? shark bite> hexa?

Shark, Metsu, Kamu > Hexa are light

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Skillchains anything with Fragmentation should line up w/ hexa for Light

[Yugl]

BA recast is useless. By the time you have gathered up another batch to AOE, it will be up already or from 2hr chest. No application anywhere else.

Now you're just contradicting yourself for the sake of an argument. Somehow an ability is useless, yet serves a purpose. Fyi, limited application > no application.

[Ricekid]

Ok nub question here on wiki it says whm capped shellra 5 reduces magic damage down to 72.6% so this means I need about 23% magic damage taken gear to cap it at 50%?

[Yugl]

Yes, but that varies by merits. Of course, they should be capping Shellra V, but if not, you'll need more MDT.

[Ricekid]

Thanks Yugl

[Nattack]

is it possible, or is there a script in which i could dual box windower using two different resolutions?
I'd like to run my main in a bigger, and my pet healer with a smaller

[Kaisha]

I got me 300 bomb clusters to kill for a trial on my RDM, anyone got suggestions where to do it? I've been eyeing the ones in A-Misareaux due to MM/Ultimate/Beyond atmas, would be miles faster to just nuke the shit out of them with the sword equipped than trying to melee them down.

[Kaita]

is it possible, or is there a script in which i could dual box windower using two different resolutions?
I'd like to run my main in a bigger, and my pet healer with a smaller

After you log in your first char just use the launcher_gui.exe and change the resolution for the second char.

[Radec]

is it possible, or is there a script in which i could dual box windower using two different resolutions?
I'd like to run my main in a bigger, and my pet healer with a smaller

launcher.exe -c DifferentLauncher.ini

Save that as DifferentLaucher.bat in the windower folder, run it to launch with the setting in "DifferentLauncher.ini" instead of the default launcher.ini

If you want it pinned to the quicklaunch bar and it isn't working (Win7, at least), check out http://download.cnet.com/Bat-To-Exe-...-10555897.html

[Yugl]

I got me 300 bomb clusters to kill for a trial on my RDM, anyone got suggestions where to do it? I've been eyeing the ones in A-Misareaux due to MM/Ultimate/Beyond atmas, would be miles faster to just nuke the shit out of them with the sword equipped than trying to melee them down.

Abyssea zones are your best bet for killshots. AoEing them would be nice if you can find someone to do that.

[Draylo]

Now you're just contradicting yourself for the sake of an argument. Somehow an ability is useless, yet serves a purpose. Fyi, limited application > no application.

I said BA recast is useless. This means the MERIT is useless. I never said BA itself was useless. The need to have BA up faster, does not apply anywhere else except AOE burning. In which case, its useless.

[Yugl]

I said BA recast is useless. This means the MERIT is useless. I never said BA itself was useless. The need to have BA up faster, does not apply anywhere else except AOE burning. In which case, its useless.

Only use would be for AOEing but you almost aways have it ready for the next pull...

Almost always =/= always. What exactly do you need Magic ACC for now and has your success using them been because you have the merits of because you believe it's the merits?

[Draylo]

Almost always =/= always.

Ok then I will change it, always. Any good BLU, with a decent sized pulled will have BA up everytime when they are ready to charged whiskers to start it off.

What exactly do you need Magic ACC for now and has your success using them been because you have the merits of because you believe it's the merits?

1k needles and add effect of stun on Head butt on higher end NM's. Don't use that logic... You can apply that to almost every minimalistic upgrade merits give for a lot of other jobs.

[Yugl]

Ok then I will change it, always. Any good BLU, with a decent sized pulled will have BA up everytime when they are ready to charged whiskers to start it off.

If you only fight weak and non-resistant (As in straight MDT) mobs, sure. If not, then you're mistaken. Also, some mob packs are too small to make the argument you're trying to pose (Tonberries).

1k needles and add effect of stun on Head butt on higher end NM's. Don't use that logic... You can apply that to almost every minimalistic upgrade merits give for a lot of other jobs.

Can and do. When you do calculations, you don't just calculate purely on the value of the item in question. You place its stats with respect to other equipment. Hence, why diminishing returns has meaning when doing calculations. Furthermore, you post fails to point out what NMs you're referring to. I can give you an example of the mobs I'm discussing in my first response (Bombs at Abyssea-Altep). What about your side of the bargain?

[Draylo]

If you only fight weak and non-resistant (As in straight MDT) mobs, sure. If not, then you're mistaken. Also, some mob packs are too small to make the argument you're trying to pose (Tonberries).

Which mob packs that you would consistently do? Are you telling me your BA merits help so that every time you wanna Charged Whiskers, it's up? Every time that timer hits 0 you hit it the instant it is ready and are able to utilize it for CW? No downtime at all having to rebuff or gather mobs eh? I think you are lying. It's useless. This also fails to take into account the amount of restore chests you get from AOEing any decent sized group.

What exactly do you need BA merits for now and has your success using them been because you have the merits or because you believe it's the merits?

Can and do. When you do calculations, you don't just calculate purely on the value of the item in question. You place its stats with respect to other equipment. Hence, why diminishing returns has meaning when doing calculations. Furthermore, you post fails to point out what NMs you're referring to. I can give you an example of the mobs I'm discussing in my first response (Bombs at Abyssea-Altep). What about your side of the bargain?

I don't have list offhand but I am sure you know of NM's that slightly resist stun effect of head butt. I am positive you know of the resist rate of 1k needles on certain NMs as well. I highly doubt every BLU carries a full blown macc build with them at all times.

[Yugl]

Which mob packs that you would consistently do? Are you telling me your BA merits help so that every time you wanna Charged Whiskers, it's up? Every time that timer hits 0 you hit it the instant it is ready and are able to utilize it for CW? No downtime at all having to rebuff or gather mobs eh? I think you are lying. It's useless. This also fails to take into account the amount of restore chests you get from AOEing any decent sized group.

There have been a occasions where I've had to sit and wait on BA timer. There have also been occasions where the timer has barely been up before I hit it. AoEing Tonberries counters your last point since I expect (and hope) to receive gold boxes while farming them.

What exactly do you need BA merits for now and has your success using them been because you have the merits or because you believe it's the merits?

Success regarded as speed? Yes.

I don't have list offhand but I am sure you know of NM's that slightly resist stun effect of head butt. I am positive you know of the resist rate of 1k needles on certain NMs as well. I highly doubt every BLU carries a full blown macc build with them at all times.

For NMs, I'm convinced that I would have been resisted on 1k needles with the merits as much as I would have been without the merits. I don't recall any NMs where I need to HB and have issues landing stun. This is most likely because most aren't worth stunning when you have a WHM to cureskin through most NMs and HB waste time you could have used for a spell or swings (And MP if you're full DD Atmaing).

Just to put more emphasis on why your case is flawed:
In the present: Light is a fraction of the yellow trigger elements. 1k Needle is a fraction of those yellow triggers. The magic acc from merits is a fraction of that the numerous instances where you will land 1k needles without the merits. The number of times I've used BA's recast surely outweigh the utility of Magic ACC merits towards this one spell.
In the future: SE has proposed to remove 1k Needle, so the utility drops to zero. Unlike your Post-Abysseacalypse response earlier, that's not based on subjective speculation.

[Draylo]

So one group of mobs in Abyssea warrants the use of BA merits because of your "occasions" when you were waiting for it to be up? Seems like an awful waste of merits to me. I have never been in that situation and I am on BLU a good 80% of the time. I think you are exaggerating the usefulness of those merits.

[Draylo]

The time 1k needles is gone is the time new content will be out for our testing/use. I would say macc merits will still hold up if those mobs are stunable. If not, they are easily replaced. CA/Phy potency is still good, majority of fights you will be capped acc but some you won't and it will help out more in those situations more than BA merits.