Random Question Thread XX: The Aforementioned Goddamn Random Question Thread

[Draylo]

I distinctly remember someone mentioning they killed Shinryu with it's add effect before.

They lied to you.

[Nattack]

herd it from a friend of a friend of mine, over a walkytalkys underwater in the path of a microwave under a natural faradays cage.

i highly doubt death can proc on shin, shin can however be 1 shotted apparently, which i watched on youtube with bard cor and sch buffs on an elebrew

[Cleverness]

Had a DRK use that scythe very often on alot of NMs with high defense. Even on 'long' fights and such I never ever saw an NM get hit with a death proc, so calling shenanigans on that unless someone has a SS.

[Toth]

Okay, with the pupdate inc and I am expecting to have Serenade spam the new ranged and melee ws thanks to Burattanois, is there any really need to go for an WoE weapon? I simply do not have the time to work for an empyrean and I keep hearing from certain sources that VS is barely better than SP.

[Kamil]

Will I still get my Empy WS when I'm in level capped situations? Like ENM.

[Neisan]

Will I still get my Empy WS when I'm in level capped situations? Like ENM.

Going by using level sync no

[Cleverness]

Okay, with the pupdate inc and I am expecting to have Serenade spam the new ranged and melee ws thanks to Burattanois, is there any really need to go for an WoE weapon? I simply do not have the time to work for an empyrean and I keep hearing from certain sources that VS is barely better than SP.

From what I've been told by a PUP friend, you don't really need an empy if you're going to use it on just PUP and have Burat. Burat gives your automaton a shitton of TP for WS spam, and Stringing Pummel isn't too far behind Smite, although you lose out on the aftermath. Again this is all just 2nd hand info that I've been told, but figured I'd just repeat it.

[Toth]

From what I've been told by a PUP friend, you don't really need an empy if you're going to use it on just PUP and have Burat. Burat gives your automaton a shitton of TP for WS spam, and Stringing Pummel isn't too far behind Smite, although you lose out on the aftermath. Again this is all just 2nd hand info that I've been told, but figured I'd just repeat it.

That's pretty much my thinking. I can see an emp/WoE weapon useful when you have your whm or blm pup out but for most things, I'd wager the ranged frame or melee frame would be more powerful.

[Mercilessturtle]

You don't need an empyrean weapon at all for any job. Vere will make you do more damage. If you want to do more damage, get one. If you don't, don't. Pretty easy.

[Toth]

You don't need an empyrean weapon at all for any job. Vere will make you do more damage. If you want to do more damage, get one. If you don't, don't. Pretty easy.

My question was more along the lines if having an emp weapon would be beneficial in the long run over the TP spammage of the uber pup saintis.

[Shiro]

Is it possible to get Koki and Blade: Ei yet (ever?) subbing sam or nin? Counting up the gear listed on the weapon pages on wiki I was getting 9 points short on Katana and 4 on GK (with merits). There were only 2-3 pieces listed for each, but I could have sworn I've come acrossed more that had weapon skills on them.

[Nattack]

as far as i know there are no katana that can be equipped by non ninjas, and there are no great katanas that can be equipped by non samurais or ninjas, in which ninja can use both WS listed, so why noy use ninja?

[Mercilessturtle]

And my answer was yes, vere will do more damage. We don't know the stats of the new automaton WS, but they would have to be incredibly broken to make automatons relevant.

[Draylo]

as far as i know there are no katana that can be equipped by non ninjas, and there are no great katanas that can be equipped by non samurais or ninjas, in which ninja can use both WS listed, so why noy use ninja?

There is, it's called Trainee katana or something like that. Nobody can do those WS though atm, not even with merits + gear. Also there is GKT's that everyone can use, its the one from the event that started today. You can get up to Koki iirc.

[Nattack]

wat really? ok then, fuck my theory

[Draylo]

Yeah its this for katana: http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19274/trainee-burin

[Radec]

/NIN49 needs 25 skill for ei, 12 for jinpu, 36 for koki
/SAM49 needs 25 for koki, gets jinpu naturally

/NIN you can get 16 merits + 7 torque + 5 hachi for get ei, but 16merits + 7torque + 5hachi + 5bushi still leaves you 3 skill short of koki
/SAM can get 25 skill with a lot of way in merits etc but never gets ei

at 90 you can probably get jinpu /sam with merits, but koki and ei are too far.

[Norellicus]

VbV/MCSC bullshit: Is there any way you can get around it given the following caveats?

1) Nobody I know owns a console edition to plug in details
2) I'm violently opposed to giving my CC number in its entirety to another fleshy
3) I'm not going to go get a prepaid card every month just to keep playing a damn game
4) The noscript tricks don't work (either jumps right to an error or sends me to a MCSC signup page)

[Martel]

as far as i know there are no katana that can be equipped by non ninjas, and there are no great katanas that can be equipped by non samurais or ninjas, in which ninja can use both WS listed, so why noy use ninja?

For great Katana there are actually a couple of different all jobs ones. Most related to the feast of swords event.

Like:http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Hardwood_Katana and such

[Toth]

And my answer was yes, vere will do more damage. We don't know the stats of the new automaton WS, but they would have to be incredibly broken to make automatons relevant.

Automatons are not relevant spamming AP for 900 (high def Nms) -1600 damage (normal mobs), no maneuvers, with a weapon with a 20 tp/tic?