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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosh View Post
    Best DNC group2 merits? Gonna be using it for random solo junk so was thinking 1 Saber Dance / 4 Fan Dance / 5 Closed Position. Also, as I don't have AF3 body yet, would be using Rapperee Harness & Goading (26%) or Loki's & Twilight (24%) be better inside abyssea for TP?
    I'd use Rap+Goading (or Rap+Twilight if it lets you make another swap like hands -> Aurore).

    For group 2 merits, I did 2 NFR, 5 Saber, 1 Fan Dance, 3 Closed Position and have never really regretted it. You're going to find that Fan Dance is the most useful in situations where you absolutely cannot get hit, or there's a TP move that bypasses shadows. In most of those cases, I'd argue that you don't need it more often than once every 5 minutes. Saber Dance 5/5 gives 5% more DA average than Saber Dance 1/5. CP is where I dumped my extra merits, because it sure doesn't hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Well I'm currently LSless atm until I can server transfer, so it'd be really hard to let someone let me nab the axe off a kill. Pick up groups are ass and my nin is still shit because of uncapped skills (eva is really a pain). And alright on the 5hit. :<
    Might be a bit of a long shot but have a look if anyone on your server is collecting alfard fangs for bow/axe/club. Never hurts to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    Masamune has the better WS and on currently the superior DD job. Can also 5hit vs 7hit on DRK which is a substantial difference.

    Next update, it's going to be a lot closer.
    Fudo isn't superior to Torcleaver. Fudo has easier to stack STR gear that's whole different thing. If DRK will get some VIT+/att+ pieces in next update and avg Fudo will lose to avg Torc you will say that Torc suddenly improved as WS or DRK gear suddenly improved?

    Btw anyone made some math avg fudo vs avg torcleaver now?

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    Yes. No weaponskill exists within a vacuum. Its overall power depends on the gear that is available to augment it and which jobs can use it (along with what of those jobs enhances its power).

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    I would still check math for both before. I too think that avg Fudo will be a little higher but I think most ppl saying this w/o any proof. I'm wondering about outside abyssea especially because probably only outside those jobs (SAM and DRK) are relevant (well after update in DRK case but that's just 10 days)

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    Can double attack proc off itself?

    I was just doing a trials and I attacks 6 times in a row but I heard it couldn't.

    I wasn't in abyssea, so no atmas, I have no triple attack gear on and only 1 iga+2 piece(which shouldn't trigger the set bonus), I dont have epona's and I am only wearing some double attack gear(brutal/atheling/aurore body). I don't have enough haste to have no delay between attack rounds even if I swung 4 times so, can you double attack off of a double attack?

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    Derp, nvm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syntex View Post
    Can double attack proc off itself?

    I was just doing a trials and I attacks 6 times in a row but I heard it couldn't.

    I wasn't in abyssea, so no atmas, I have no triple attack gear on and only 1 iga+2 piece(which shouldn't trigger the set bonus), I dont have epona's and I am only wearing some double attack gear(brutal/atheling/aurore body). I don't have enough haste to have no delay between attack rounds even if I swung 4 times so, can you double attack off of a double attack?
    You cannot. It may have been lag.

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    If you're at top campaign medal and switch allegiances (again) are you still demoted a few ranks or did the recent update null that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syntex View Post
    Can double attack proc off itself?

    I was just doing a trials and I attacks 6 times in a row but I heard it couldn't.

    I wasn't in abyssea, so no atmas, I have no triple attack gear on and only 1 iga+2 piece(which shouldn't trigger the set bonus), I dont have epona's and I am only wearing some double attack gear(brutal/atheling/aurore body). I don't have enough haste to have no delay between attack rounds even if I swung 4 times so, can you double attack off of a double attack?


    How? I'm @24% haste atm (with AF body) and with haste samba only and a single DA I attack "non-stop". Two DAs cause it to overlap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syntex View Post
    can you double attack off of a double attack?
    It's like dividing by zero, it's just plain not possible.

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    It may have been lag then. I had haste samba and only 20% haste but not a lot of dual wield gear so it might have been attack rounds connecting together.

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    Are shouts with mercenary offers against Terms of Use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Are shouts with mercenary offers against Terms of Use?
    no

    But then again I suppose like everything else it depends on the idiot GM you get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    no

    But then again I suppose like everything else it depends on the idiot GM you get.
    Any propositions how that shout should look like to minimize the chance to get in trouble in case of GM like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Are shouts with mercenary offers against Terms of Use?
    I don't see how they could be. Between 2005~2006(7?) ODS merc shouts filled Lower Jeuno/Whitegate all day. Unless they've somehow swapped stances on it.

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    Anyone know the optimal skill up level for the black mandies in tahrongi? I know the skill up speed picks up greatly at 300 for the dolls in altep, but what about the mandies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Anyone know the optimal skill up level for the black mandies in tahrongi? I know the skill up speed picks up greatly at 300 for the dolls in altep, but what about the mandies?
    If accuracy is a constant, I've never had skillup rate increase as I get closer to cap regardless what I'm fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Any propositions how that shout should look like to minimize the chance to get in trouble in case of GM like that?
    It really shouldn't matter, I sell gear almost everyday(though I don't shout). I just threw in that last part for the simple fact that GM's love to throw our random bullshit that isn't true. You should be fine no matter what the shout looks like, if a GM hassles you just ask for an SGM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    It really shouldn't matter, I sell gear almost everyday(though I don't shout). I just threw in that last part for the simple fact that GM's love to throw our random bullshit that isn't true. You should be fine no matter what the shout looks like, if a GM hassles you just ask for an SGM.
    Thx.

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