2010-11 NHL Playoff Thread: HOUSE RULES: ENGAGED

[bluefan]

Double so I'll use the room to say that while Halpern is guilty of not keeping his head up, Ference could have easily avoided the hit. The open ice away from the play is not the place to send a message.

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Ference could have easily taken one little step to the side to avoid the hit. Sure, Halpern is a little guilty for not watching where he was going, but he was focusing on the play so you can't blame him entirely. The fact that Ference actually leaned into and raised his shoulder for the hit is indisputable.

[Callisto]

Totally dirtier.

Team GP Min Maj  Misc  G  Misc Match  Total PIM  # Bnch  B PIM  PIM/G
BOS	 82  292  73     7    7	    1	    385   1115     5        10	  13.6
PHI	 82  347  49    11   4	    1	    416   1119     4         8	   13.6

The difference in those totals is pretty much all from that one Boston/Montreal game lol

[vagus]

Sidenote : To anyone that ever comes to Vancouver. The Roxie is where Canuck's and most other NHL teams party. Top40/rock music full of slutty white chicks and old party goers in there 50's.

[Bingbong]

Actually it is Ference's duty to not ram his shoulder into his opponent's head, particularly when they're miles away from the action.

But thanks for playing.

NHL rulebook dude.

"A player is allowed the ice he is standing on (body position) and is not required to move in order to let an opponent proceed." - that's the rule on interference.

"48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A lateral or blind side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact is not permitted."

Tough to call a check to the head when Halpern initiated contact. Ference did not have to move, and was entitled to the ice he was on.
But keep thinking it was a penalty.

[Ishido]

NHL rulebook dude.

"A player is allowed the ice he is standing on (body position) and is not required to move in order to let an opponent proceed." - that's the rule on interference.

"48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A lateral or blind side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact is not permitted."

Tough to call a check to the head when Halpern initiated contact. Ference did not have to move, and was entitled to the ice he was on.
But keep thinking it was a penalty.

Oh god this is going to be fun.

Please tell us your thoughts on the Pacioretty hit.

[BadKarma]

NHL rulebook dude.

"A player is allowed the ice he is standing on (body position) and is not required to move in order to let an opponent proceed." - that's the rule on interference.

"48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A lateral or blind side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact is not permitted."

Tough to call a check to the head when Halpern initiated contact. Ference did not have to move, and was entitled to the ice he was on.
But keep thinking it was a penalty.

Who the fuck...


Get the fuck out.

[Callisto]

SASSAGES AHOY

[Callisto]

Oh god this is going to be fun.

Please tell us your thoughts on the Pacioretty hit.

stanchion is allowed to have its ice, and is not required to move to keep from impeding a player's progress

[bluefan]

Here we go!

Go Canucks Go!

...

I feel so dirty.

[Ishido]

stanchion is allowed to have its ice, and is not required to move to keep from impeding a player's progress

It's in the rulebook dude

[aurik]

NHL rulebook dude.

"A player is allowed the ice he is standing on (body position) and is not required to move in order to let an opponent proceed." - that's the rule on interference.

"48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A lateral or blind side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact is not permitted."

Tough to call a check to the head when Halpern initiated contact. Ference did not have to move, and was entitled to the ice he was on.
But keep thinking it was a penalty.

Reckless disregard for other player's safety. BUT THANKS FOR PLAYING.

[Judai]

Making a hit with the sole purpose of injuring a player while the puck is on the other side of the ice is in the rule book,?

I get Halpern needs to pay attention but Dirty hit is DIRTY.

[Bingbong]

Oh god this is going to be fun.

Please tell us your thoughts on the Pacioretty hit.

LOL if I recall, Chara got an interference call on that one. The reason was Chara moved laterally cornering Pacioretty into the stanchion, as a fan of a team that's seen forwards and centers get boarded into concussions while the offender gets 2 game suspensions (if at all), calling the Bruins dirty is just so friggin amusing.

Good example of why one was a penalty, and the other is crying for a call.






How the fuck can you call it reckless? Ference reacted to a man skating right at him. Shit, he had a disciplinary hearing about the hit, and he didn't even get a fine... the same guy who got fined for flipping the bird didn't pay a cent for that hit, that's how NOT dirty it was. Enjoy the offseason.

[aurik]

Because he had no reason to shoulder him in the head?

He recklessly decided to shoulder the guy in the head.

He saw him coming, he saw that Halpern wasn't looking, he could have pushed him away, but he decided to shoulder him in the head instead.

If that isn't reckless disregard for player safety I don't know what is.

[Ishido]

LOL if I recall, Chara got an interference call on that one. The reason was Chara moved laterally cornering Pacioretty into the stanchion, as a fan of a team that's seen forwards and centers get boarded into concussions while the offender gets 2 game suspensions (if at all), calling the Bruins dirty is just so friggin amusing.

Good example of why one was a penalty, and the other is crying for a call.






How the fuck can you call it reckless? Ference reacted to a man skating right at him. Shit, he had a disciplinary hearing about the hit, and he didn't even get a fine... the same guy who got fined for flipping the bird didn't pay a cent for that hit, that's how NOT dirty it was. Enjoy the offseason.

You can call it reckless because instead of taking the easy option of not leaning into an unsuspecting player, he make an unnecessary and dangerous hit. Also bringing up the result of a meeting with the backup disciplinarian in the NHL isn't exactly what I would call exonerating evidence.

Telling me to enjoy the offseason doesn't make any sense either.

[aurik]

Enjoy the offseason because you're a montreal fan obviously as am I!

[Bingbong]

Because he had no reason to shoulder him in the head?
He recklessly decided to shoulder the guy in the head.
He saw him coming, he saw that Halpern wasn't looking, he could have pushed him away, but he decided to shoulder him in the head instead.
If that isn't reckless disregard for player safety I don't know what is.

Do yourself a favor and read anything but BG on the hit... you'll see people with far more ice time than yourself talking about how it was incidental contact, part of the game, Halpern should've kept his head up, etc etc etc.

[Judai]

in·ci·den·tal

Definition of INCIDENTAL
1: being likely to ensue as a chance or minor consequence
2: occurring merely by chance or without intention or calculation

Ferrence saw Halpern and manuevered to ensure a hit, it was on purpose and meant to injure a player not paying attention

[Chips]

You guys make me laugh. Regardless of what you might think, the official standard for dirty/clean hits are determined by the NHL. If their ruling was that it wasn't dirty (which can be seen in the lack of fine/suspension, not to mention no penalty on the play), then that's the decision the league stands by. This isn't to say you shouldn't have an opinion on the hit, I'm saying you should relax on criticizing this guy, especially when he's citing the NHL Rulebook made to decide the ruling for this particular play.

[Judai]

The NHL has shown multiple times they don't know shit about what constitutes as a dirty hit and aren't willing to actually seriously suspend players.