A Song of Ice and Fire (Book discussion)

[Zetanio]

Here too
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/High_Sparrow

[Andalusian girls]

they initially rose as a faith based rebellion against the Targaryen dynasty who were seen as impious, heretical foreigners proudly and openly engaging in the abomination of incest. like everyone else to face the Targs they were eventually defeated and outlawed for a couple hundred years prior to the start of the main story. they eventually return during the War of the Five Kings because of the widespread attacks on churches and septons and silent sisters, none of the kings much care about protecting them, three of the kings follow infidel religions in fact, so the Faith begins to arm itself in order to protect itself. Cersei eventually legitimizes them by royal decree in exchange for them abolishing the debt the crown owes the church. once legitimized they become a rival power center with amusing results for all involved.

[Andalusian girls]

or yea just read those

[tyven]

or yea just read those

Bruh wat happened to panda

[Andalusian girls]

he flew too close to the sun on wings of pastrami

[Hitoshura]

Thanks guys, that was an interesting read.

[Tyrath]

I saw an article title 10 Clues For The Rest Of Season 5 From “The Wars To Come”

One of the predictions was "Daenerys will leave Meereen."

I lol'd

[Penthesilea]

EternityEnd and whoever else.

Maybe I don't get the whole infatuation people have with seeing dicks, but I'm not seeing any vag. Topless men abound in the show as do topless women. You want dicks? I want pussy shots. Those are equivalent, not tits for dicks.

[EternityEnd]

Men's upper bodies aren't as sexualized or taboo as women's. Dicks aren't as taboo as vaginas. Dicks are more equivalent to tits on a scale of taboo than they are to vaginas.

That's not even to get into the ludicrous nature of what you're saying. The vagina is an internal organ. You want to see an actress' labia? lol. You'd have to film from some porn star angles, and considering this is TV, that's unlikely to happen.

Dicks, meanwhile, are external organs, visible, and have to be actively hidden in nude scenes, which isn't normally HBO's method of operation. The exact parallel would be Daenerys covering up with her sheets - something pretty much every guy bitched about. HBO goes to painful lengths to make things seem natural and real, and behavior like that is the opposite.

Not that guys get nude scenes of any kind very often on GoT, but that's my point. When they do, 1-2 times a season, it should be fully nude. You can't argue Daenerys wasn't full frontal in S1E10, even if the camera wasn't zooming up her vaginal canal.

[Penthesilea]

LOL - who cares whether I use the colloquial "vagina" as a place holder for labia. The point is men's bodies, particularly their upper bodies, are just as sexualized and prominent as tits are.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-U0NCvnhmRc...+shirtless.gif
I could go through countless examples and they'd probably equal the same airtime as tits do.

[EternityEnd]

Ignored most of my post there, bud. Male upper body's definitely sexualized, but not nearly to the same degree, and while having none of the same taboo.

[Penthesilea]

Well I'll certainly say that you're absolutely wrong that dicks are on the same taboo level as tits.

Also S1E10 ends with a non-sexual context naked body. Also her snatch is covered up by rhaegal.

[EternityEnd]

glad you said that rather than reading or replying to 90% of my original post. I understand you have to cherry pick, though.

done responding to you. lol

[Tyrath]

Hes right though. Dicks being on the same level as tits is not true at all.

[noblemountain]

Not to mention, that seeing tits is only a big deal in certain places, and considered quite normal in most.

[EternityEnd]

I never said they were. I said they were "more equivalent on a scale of taboo." Again, ignoring every other point.

Full frontal nudity is full frontal nudity, my condolences that labia aren't as visible from afar as penises.

[Penthesilea]

Except that they use merkins and prosthetics.

[Cutriss]

Welp, it was a good run everyone, but I think it's safe to say now that Martin won't be writing any more books, he's too busy engaged in Puppygate to do anything else.

[BaneTheBrawler]

context? i have no idea wtf youre talking about

[Evane]

context? i have no idea wtf youre talking about

It's on his blog. Something about book awards and how the winner is almost always known before the awards are given. Idk I didn't get it.