A Song of Ice and Fire (Book discussion)

[Plow]

I'm interested to see how they manage Arya over there really, I could see her being Cat for a really long time, or as easily being cat for like 2 episodes and then moving on

[Nuriko]

My memory is slipping from reading the books awhile ago, how would Arya replace Cat/Lady Stoneheart? Or is it another Cat I'm forgetting (I do recall her warging into a cat to fix her blindness, but I don't think that's what is being referred to here...)

[Plow]

cat of the canals

[BaneTheBrawler]

yeah Cat is the person she becomes when she lives with the guy and his daughters, selling clams and shit. she stays that way for quite some time; long enough for Sam to arrive. She isn't removed from that identity until she kills Dareon. I wonder if they'll do the Dareon bit, and who they'll use for him. I don't recall seeing him in the show. they might end up just having it be some random Black Brother. Or they might use Dolorous Edd. God, I hope they don't use Edd.

ive always wondered how much the kindly man guesses about arya's sense of self. accepting her choice of the name Cat... seems to me like he didn't make the connection (iirc arya chooses it specifically because it was her mother's nickname), but you never know.

[Stilzkin]

ive always wondered how much the kindly man guesses about arya's sense of self. accepting her choice of the name Cat... seems to me like he didn't make the connection (iirc arya chooses it specifically because it was her mother's nickname), but you never know.

Didn't he know she was Arya Stark before she told him? If he can figure out stuff like that I think he would be able to figure out Cat is short for Catelyn.

I always thought the actor that played Syrio would play the Kindly man.

[BaneTheBrawler]

i don't remember. i don't think he knew more than just that she was raised in a castle, but it's been a while so idk. nicknames aren't so easy to guess, though. she could have been Kate. or Lynn. Or something else entirely, like, say, Tansy, which I think was Lysa's nickname.

and nah, syrio is dead. If he WERE a faceless man, you really think Trant (pretty sure it was Trant) would have left that room alive?

[Stilzkin]

and nah, syrio is dead. If he WERE a faceless man, you really think Trant (pretty sure it was Trant) would have left that room alive?

I didn't say he would come back as Syrio.

Jaqen shouldn't actually be the Kindly man either but that doesn't mean he can't look like him for the show. You could wonder how the Kindly man managed to get Syrio's appearance but the show doesn't need to explain itself too much and he can already do other weird stuff (the worm thing).

[BaneTheBrawler]

i don't think that's going to happen. introduces a whole new conversation in which arya asks why he looks like syrio. or else confuses the fuck out of show watchers by inexplicably having syrio show up and arya never acknowledge it.

i mean, i suppose they could, but it would be really shoddy storytelling.

[Eurell]

i don't remember. i don't think he knew more than just that she was raised in a castle, but it's been a while so idk. nicknames aren't so easy to guess, though. she could have been Kate. or Lynn. Or something else entirely, like, say, Tansy, which I think was Lysa's nickname.

and nah, syrio is dead. If he WERE a faceless man, you really think Trant (pretty sure it was Trant) would have left that room alive?

Wasn't tansy the thing they used to cause her abortion or something? I forget lol

[BaneTheBrawler]

no that's moon tea


edit: hmm nvm lady smallwood calls it tansy tea. so either GRRM made a minor mistake, or it's both. In the scene with Hoster, though, it sure seems like it's someone's name. i might be remembering it wrong, though. definitely time to reread.

[Stilzkin]

no that's moon tea


edit: hmm nvm lady smallwood calls it tansy tea. so either GRRM made a minor mistake, or it's both. In the scene with Hoster, though, it sure seems like it's someone's name. i might be remembering it wrong, though. definitely time to reread.

Moon tea is made with tansy, so tansy is an alternate name.

The Hoster scenes were definitely about Lysa's abortion.

[Senji]

i don't remember. i don't think he knew more than just that she was raised in a castle, but it's been a while so idk. nicknames aren't so easy to guess, though. she could have been Kate. or Lynn. Or something else entirely, like, say, Tansy, which I think was Lysa's nickname.

and nah, syrio is dead. If he WERE a faceless man, you really think Trant (pretty sure it was Trant) would have left that room alive?

All according to plan.

[Plow]

no that's moon tea


edit: hmm nvm lady smallwood calls it tansy tea. so either GRRM made a minor mistake, or it's both. In the scene with Hoster, though, it sure seems like it's someone's name. i might be remembering it wrong, though. definitely time to reread.

cat thinks he must have called lysa tansy or something but eventually we figure out that tansy is an ingredient in moon tea and that's what he's talkin about

[BaneTheBrawler]

yeah, time to reread.

[Plow]

you'll need to read a fair bit of cat's chapters from storm, but I think what you're after is mostly when she first gets imprisoned and then right before (or maybe after) he dies

I'm like... right in the middle of it atm and she hasn't said shit about it since her first long sitting with him I think.

[mallister]

martin yakking about upcoming winds of winter:

http://www.pastemagazine.com/article...-winds-of.html

[Tyrath]

Only tease I care about is a fucking release date.

[Qalbert]

so Sean Bean was asked if he was gonna return to the show for flashbacks and said (possible spoiler depending on how much he actually knows/is just speculating)

Spoiler: show

And that should happen, shouldn’t it? I’ve definitely got some unfinished business that needs to be resolved there. I’m obviously not Jon Snow’s dad. And you need that to be revealed at some point, don’t you? So Bran would kind of be the one having the flashback, and he would see Ned praying, right? And revealing those things? You never know what those guys are going to do with that. It’s got to be something special. But I’m into that. I certainly would be into that. Print that! Give them a nudge. [Laughs.] Hopefully I’ll get a call soon.

[BadKarma]

Anyone who's read the book at this point and still thinks Ned is Jon's pops would be either in denial or stupid.

[BaneTheBrawler]

yeah aint no way. kinda sounds like he's read the books; show only people may not have caught on to that yet.

be neat to see.