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  1. #41
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    Still kinda stupid to not make it 100% of HQs anymore. Guess we have to wait and see what the drop rate is like. Under 50%, screw that. Not wasting 99ks and killing 3 mobs for some noob that wants a beard for 1m.

  2. #42
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    Some tasty ol' tears up in this thread & SE forum.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by grantlogan View Post
    Some tasty ol' tears up in this thread & SE forum.
    The botter in me wants to rage but tbh, All the shit is useless now so meh... 2 weeks for few ppl in LS to get a BB item w/o this pain in the dick process.

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhk6phiZPW1qf16qe.jpg

  4. #44
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    my 500+ KS says "yay!"

    EDIT> Also "speed belts for everyone!!!"

    if anything, new players now aren't intimidated by having to camp shit vs. computers

    I await Gredival's input on this seeing as how he hated abyssea and thought that camping kings was the sign of a truly elite video gamer...

  5. #45
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    SE is baked obv

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandum View Post
    SE is baked obv
    I'm imagining the biggest Trollface.jpg over all of their faces right now.

  7. #47
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    So now my 1350 Kindred's Seals now have a higher use again. Fucking lol

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    What the fuck? They just went and made D-Ring & Ridill way more accessible, while nerfing BB drop rates?

    GG SE, GG.

    You start off by fixing what was for years a retarded & broken spawn system (why no fix to Roc or KA btw???) and then fuck it up by lowering chances of getting BB items... because everyone has stacks of KS to blow amirite?

    I personally have quite a lot saved up from years of playing but still, this just seems stupid. Especially with the D Rings... wtf.

  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colenzo View Post
    you talk like its hard to beat any of this crap with less than a party of people lol
    You talk like Desert Swarm was hard back in the day. People are lazy, people have no talent in organising a propper shout, people have no friends. What they do have are masses of KS.

  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan
    People are not lazy for not wanting to do something absolutely boring and annoying. It is easier to have a ToD and get lucky with a pop soon after getting there. Even if it does not pop right away you have 30 minutes to have a real life. People do actually have those even if you seem to ignore that fact by wanting them to spend hours upon hours farming EPs in a six man group (once again, that will not really happen in such numbers commonly). You get 30 minutes to go do laundry, homework, clean the dishes, and so on.

    Saying it is lazy to not spend hours farming KSs out of a preference to claim a time spawn like saying you want to get off a highway to travel on some dirt road because the highway is for lazy people with cruise control in their cars who don't have to even keep their foot on the pedal.

    Please, find a little sense.
    This sums up my whole complaint with this system and to everyone who thinks people who hate this are "Lazy botters who sit in mom and dad's basement eatting chips and watching porn"

  11. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viewpoint View Post
    So now my 1350 Kindred's Seals now have a higher use again. Fucking lol
    My husband and I spent around 1k KS between us just a few weeks ago on The Hills Are Alive... stupid egg... at least we still have around 300 seals each in case we have any friends who still would want to do any of these... HQ kings not 100% drop on the items now is even more of a kick in the nuts...

  12. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    What the fuck? They just went and made D-Ring & Ridill way more accessible, while nerfing BB drop rates?

    GG SE, GG.

    You start off by fixing what was for years a retarded & broken spawn system (why no fix to Roc or KA btw???) and then fuck it up by lowering chances of getting BB items... because everyone has stacks of KS to blow amirite?

    I personally have quite a lot saved up from years of playing but still, this just seems stupid. Especially with the D Rings... wtf.
    Wait, wait, wait. I can understand KA, but Roc? Shit, he's up more often than not on Cerb. People kill him for the ingot (or w/e mat he drops) more than anything else, and only when they walk past him and are feeling bored.

  13. #53
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    Idk why ppl cry so much haha.
    It's PERFECT change. 99KS is about a week work of 3h farming every day for 1 person. Now if you want shit you can actually farm it instead of sitting there for worthless up to 3h just to see some fuckers that still care to use bots get claim. Really great change finally some chance to get n legs and d ring. Crying bandwagon MNKs is even more lol. They are getting stuff much easier then old MNKs and still will and yet they still cry. Mnk should be tough not some crying baby :D

  14. #54
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    Fyi, there's a good chance most of the people saying this is a Black Belt nerf are going to look like idiots come patch. They didn't say they were changing the drop rate for KS99, but as pointed out, you now have a double chance per orb (the second chance with perhaps a higher drop rate.) Kinda silly to even speculate how it's going to affect it considering it depends largely on the drop rate on the HQ will be.

  15. #55
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    well, better late than never.

  16. #56
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    They just changed the order of things to look like this:

    How to obtain the trigger items:

    Fafnir: Treasure from “Early Bird Catches the Wyrm”
    Behemoth: Treasure from “Horns of War”
    Adamantoise: Treasure from “The Hills are Alive”
    * At least one of these items will be dropped in every battle.

    Nidhogg: Treasure dropped by Fafnir
    King Behemoth: Treasure dropped by Behemoth
    Aspidochelone: Treasure dropped by Adamantoise
    Lol @ the false hope of getting a 100% HQ to be shattered a couple hours later.

  17. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diomer View Post
    They just changed the order of things to look like this:



    Lol @ the false hope of getting a 100% HQ to be shattered a couple hours later.
    That on the other hand would suck lol

  18. #58
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    oh god im so happy about this best update ever , cant wait for all the free KB's and Nidd's when noobs wipe its gonna be glorious drings.... drings everywhere!

  19. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    Which nets you a 100% drop for the NQ and HQ NM pops if I'm reading it correctly.

    Edit: The key is to make friends with a Bst or Maat cap that's saved up a billion pops or just buy them off people.
    this ^

    I right now have 2-3 stacks of K seals on my character I am never going to use. I wouldn't think twice about selling my KS99 orb run to an endgame ls looking to get another drop. I'm sure there will be tonnes of people who would be willing to hand over their ks99 orb to your ls for a chance at getting some random item you guys probably have 20 of, you guys get your pop item, they get the item they have wanted forever but never had the man power to actually get, everyone is happy.

  20. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    Fyi, there's a good chance most of the people saying this is a Black Belt nerf are going to look like idiots come patch. They didn't say they were changing the drop rate for KS99, but as pointed out, you now have a double chance per orb (the second chance with perhaps a higher drop rate.) Kinda silly to even speculate how it's going to affect it considering it depends largely on the drop rate on the HQ will be.
    Ya there's also no way of knowing what the BB item drop rate off HQ kings will be. If it's incredibly shit people might have a reason to bitch but if it's like +50% then it'll be laughable to finish BB.

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