[dev1009] New Trigger Conditions for Notorious Monsters

[Absolutely Virtue]

In case the point hasn't been made clear:

If you prefer the old FFXI to the new FFXI, everybody who still plays is glad you quit and nobody misses you or gives a shit about your "accomplishments."

[sruon]

Aspid, the new Almighty Apkallu.

[Afrohatch]

It's also possible SE may lower the amount of seals needed for the fights....

[Hirronimus]

KS99 is KS99... seriously?

[Tezz]

Incoming Tiamat popped via Ouryu drop? (or whatever is considered equivalent)

[Spira]

after a nap and reading this again.

as much as I don't really see the necessity of these changes now, i must applaud SE for making this change to the system anyway. I think for the most part they're really trying to do their best to save old content and this could be one way of doing so for land kings. By making them non-camp, they're opening the content up to people who have always wanted to do it but are never online during window or whatnot.

Players who have done it, they can complain a fair bit since they've been there and done that, but what this really does is make it more accessible to those who havent. And for people who don't have BB items, this update will essentially make you go through the other options you have available before HQ kings. People seem to forget KS99s also drop these items.

I get the feeling the trigs for NQs will be like 1-3 per orb, and are probably no EX, so it might open up a market for trigs and one new purpose for burning KS for those who don't really want anything from land kings anymore.

Also, although it does seem pointless from our side, this might be another starting point for a new branch of equipment improvements. We're aware firstly, that they don't intend for Empyrean AF to be the only EQ options at the final level cap and that they want a variety of options like with 75 gear.. and secondly, that methods to augment existing RA/EX gear (like that Byakko's Haidate synergy pic) are on the cards. So in light of that, they might find ways to bring the classic 70-75 armor sets up to a comparable level - and if done well, it should revive interest in old areas.. and this fix would alleviate camping problems.

to the comment about hardcore HNM hunting. I agree in some points, but never thought land kings were much of a shining example of this. Window claim spamming is kinda lame. The stretched out CoP and ToAU ones were slightly better only if you have a mule watching but I get the idea they were never meant to be camped that way. My personal favorite for HNM rushhour was DI and SW, mainly because it was more a rush to find and claim, rather than to spam a command.

[Dantrag]

Where was this 7 years ago?

lol pretty much this.

[Afrohatch]

KS99 is KS99... seriously?

They never stated KS99, just the BC names, so I wouldn't rule anything out

[Necronus]

Anyone save that picture we as the community sent to Sundi suggesting this years ago? My google-fu and forum search-fu have failed me in locating it.

[Byrthnoth]

Think this will cause a surge of Horns of War for D-rings?

D-ring was approximately a ~5% drop off KB, right? 1 KB every week on average, maybe 2-3 D-rings per year per server average?

[Hirronimus]

They never stated KS99, just the BC names, so I wouldn't rule anything out

Knowing SE update notes. Something along the lines of "In addition to these changes, the amount of Kindred Seals required to participate in battlefield will be lower" might have been mentioned.

[Aselin]

• [dev1009] New Trigger Conditions for Notorious Monsters
  
  

  • Trigger conditions for following notorious monsters will be adjustedto spawn by trading specific items to the “???” in the respective area.
    Fafnir / Nidhogg: Dragon’s Aery
    Behemoth / King Behemoth: Behemoth’s Dominion
    Adamantoise / Aspidochelone: Valley of Sorrows
    
    - The ”???” will respawn a minute after the battle is over.
    - The NM will despawn if unclaimed for 90 seconds at the spawned location.
    - The feature wherein the level of these monsters will increase after battling them for a period of time will remain unchanged.
  • How to obtain the trigger items:
    Fafnir: Treasure from “Early Bird Catches the Wyrm”
    Behemoth: Treasure from “Horns of War”
    Adamantoise: Treasure from “The Hills are Alive”
    * At least one of these items will be dropped in every battle.
    
    Nidhogg: Treasure dropped by Fafnir
    King Behemoth: Treasure dropped by Behemoth
    Aspidochelone: Treasure dropped by Adamantoise
    
  • The treasures dropped by the following notorious monsters will be adjusted as follows:
    Fafnir : Wyrm Beard removed
    Nidhogg : Drop rate of Wyrm Beard decreased
    Behemoth : Behemoth Tongue removed
    King Behemoth : Drop rate of Behemoth Tongue decreased
    Adamantoise : Adamantoise Egg removed
    Aspidochelone : Drop rate of Adamantoise Egg decreased

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*Details on obtaining the NM trigger items were updated on April 20, 2011.

Didn't someone posted this same exact idea of how to pop these NMs and remove their timers like two to three years ago???

It was a suggestion by a poster on BG Forums on how to change the HNMs/HQ HNMs to forced pop. And, the pop items would be obtained by KS99s.

Whoever suggested it, it seems SE actually fucking listened to his ideas and took it to heart.

If you guys are mad about it, track the post down and the poster. You can blame him for suggesting this. Since, you know... years ago many of us wanted SE to update/change the way HNMs would spawn and didn't like how we had to wait on them.

You get what you asked for.

[Lovex]

omg kings are gonna be obselete now!

IM CRYING GUYS! THE DAY HAS FINALLY COME!

WHO WOULDA THOUGHT WE'D EVER SEE THIS DAY COMING!

THE DAY KINGS ARE OBSELETE! GURL.. I CAN'T..

[Hirronimus]

God damn it, Bercus!

[Fievel]

Knowing SE update notes. Something along the lines of "In addition to these changes, the amount of Kindred Seals required to participate in battlefield will be lower" might have been mentioned.

I could see that being added in on the update notes on the day of the update instead of given now.

[Khiinroye]

I'm worried that they'll try to keep the HQ rare by giving the pop item for it an abysmal drop rate. Kill 10 KS99, get 10-20 NQ pops, and end up with 0-1 HQ pops on average. If they screw it up like that, people will be complaining for a switch back to the old system.

Hopefully they don't screw it up, and have the drop rate 25% or higher.

[Aselin]

I'm worried that they'll try to keep the HQ rare by giving the pop item for it an abysmal drop rate. Kill 10 KS99, get 10-20 NQ pops, and end up with 0-1 HQ pops on average. If they screw it up like that, people will be complaining for a switch back to the old system.

Hopefully they don't screw it up, and have the drop rate 25% or higher.

I would not be surprised about that Khii. Knowing SE after playing since 2004, that drop rate will be low. However, the notes did mention that "at least one" should drop.

Hopefully.

[Vandalhart]

Let me take a look back through the "what you'd like to see in 2011 thread". Now that it's mentioned it sounds REALLY familiar.

[xerodok]

the worst part about all of this is having to walk to Balga's Dais and Dragon's Aery

[Khiinroye]

I would not be surprised about that Khii. Knowing SE after playing since 2004, that drop rate will be low. However, the notes did mention that "at least one" should drop.

Hopefully.

The "at least one" referred to the NQ pop item from the KS99, not the HQ from the NQ.