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    Kind of a loose connection here but, when they added subtle blow to AGI that didn't work for mobs. We'll have to wait and see for sure but I doubt its a crit nerf the more I think about it. Would shift the balance to the other end of the spectrum and make crit based jobs into shit jobs on new content outside abyssea.

    What kind of atma would be needed that isn't crit based that would make SAM/DRK etc. comparable to WAR/NIN etc.?

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    Loving the DRK updates and as for merits, hmm

    5 LR Recast/5 DB is obvious

    but then if Souleater is spammable now, I wonder if SE Recast/Muted Soul may be worth it? Interesting. Still, if SE doesn't nerf DB, this is beginning to look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soho View Post
    RNG needs a hate dump a lot more than it needs a damage boost. They gave one to BLM, I don't see the issue with giving one to RNG as well.

    Sometimes I wonder if anyone at SE ever plays that job.
    SE is completely clueless. They don't seem to realize that RNG cant be RNG when a single WS winds up grabbing hate and moves the mob all over the fucking place. Couple that with a lack of auto-attack and you wind up either way behind auto-attack DD or wind up a damn nuisance.

    I fully expect Damascus Bullets in addition to Taurus Horn arrows. They don't seem to grasp that ammo supplies need to be from easily accessible sources or stacks end up something ridiculous like 60k for a single stack of 99 either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    SE is completely clueless.

    I fully expect Damascus Bullets in addition to Taurus Horn arrows.
    Just wait for Imperial Wootz Bullets and cerebus claw arrows at 95

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    Tranquil Heart seems interesting, though I wasn't sure Enmity was ever a problem over healing at higher levels...

    This job update seems geared more towards low-level players to be honest.

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    Other Adjustments
    VIT will play a role in calculating damage taken from critical hits.


    Perhaps a PlayerDex vs MobVit term in the equation somewhere? If it's implemented in this manner, I can see it impacting on THF a lot less and makes gearing Dex for crit based ws a bit more important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocara View Post
    Just wait for Imperial Wootz Bullets and cerebus claw arrows at 95
    Don't forget Khimaira Bolts.

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    Wow, nice, ok, time to re-adjust DRK merits. :O

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    I have a hard time figuring out how to rearrange the tier 1 for DRK. 5/5 LR recast is no brainer, but do I go with 10% more attack 80% of the time, or do i go with going from 16.7% of time under souleater to 20% of the time under souleater assuming the JT at least half the HP cost and allows for SE spamming.

    And tier 2, 5/5 DB is now a no brainer even with /sam (with the amount of hate we will get assuming not under high buff situation and outside abyssea, seigan would be nice without hurting performance). So do I start dumping merits into muted soul? or will we need to use diabolic eye for harder stuff? Diabolic eye is really only worth it if capped but muted soul isn't, so I can keep 1 dark seal with muted soul perhaps..... errrrrrrrrr tough decision...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Don't forget Khimaira Bolts.
    Apademak Arrows, now with En-Fulmination!

    Tranquil Heart seems interesting, though I wasn't sure Enmity was ever a problem over healing at higher levels...
    Never was for short fights. Longer ones could get sketchy as a RDM or SCH, but then again, a THF could handle that issue by yoinking enmity away from the healer.

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    Good update, wont fix DRK but will atleast take it from LOL status. Incoming AF2 feet into set my PDT set. The LR buff is really nice for lowman when you aren't always at the haste cap.

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    While these boosts are nice, they don't really help DRK as much as you might think, as Kirschy has suggested. These two ideas came straight from the DRK official forum, unfortunately.

    Then again, these are just adjustments, and they could implement the really good ideas for the next level cap increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maksudyst View Post
    Holy last resort update. It finally matches berserk! 180 seconds of desperate blows ftw!
    F ya! I was wondering why it was taking them so long to fix this, time to level DRK again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn View Post
    Tranquil Heart seems interesting, though I wasn't sure Enmity was ever a problem over healing at higher levels...

    This job update seems geared more towards low-level players to be honest.
    So after seeing one job trait that you think is for low lvl you figured that whole update is for low lvl

    It's not for lower lvl it's:
    a) Instead of giving RDMs cV they figured lowering enmity on IV via trait will be as good ( ofc it won't because the problem lies more in amount of hp healed, on the other hand is more useful outside abyssea)

    or

    b) They want to make something like someone on BG suggested and give RDM cV but changing it's enmity calculation ( make it more like cIV ) but lowering it greatly with trait on WHM ( let's say WHM will have tier V of this trait , when RDM only tier II )

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    I cant believe drks are actually QQing about the update on the forums because they didnt get buffed enough. Even if it doesnt affect higher levels of haste aka marches it's still a fairly huge buff.

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    A whole lot of those adjustments made me lol

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    Back to this haste thing. Wouldn't it be possible to replace 10 haste in gear for DRK with Caladbolg to cut down one hit to WS?

    I am more then sure that there is many possibilities to improve your gear damage wise if you need just 15(16)% haste instead of 25(26)%.

    Can someone post best TP/WS gear for Caladbolg DRK now?

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    Sweet. Finally a reason to level my RNG past 75 or 80 or whatever I left it ages ago. And also double sweet for cool drk changes.

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    How to fix dark knight

    1. Make their ws crit
    2. fuck the rest

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    Seriously all about DRK is weak now is that its avg 3k (blind shot) on WS instead of 4,5k?

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