Osama bin Laden is dead

[Tweek]

all mainstream (hell, all) American news sources have disgusting bias. fox is the only important conservative one aside from talk radio, so it gets a lot of distrationary attention from all the others. I can't stand to watch any news channels anymore, they're all too deeply entrenched in their political views to get a straight story.

I agree completely I just get sick of hearing from naive people who constantly attack the same news media source thinking that not all do this daily. All of them do it, you need to filter out the BS if you decide to watch any of them. Thinking one is better than the other or that they aren't all terrible is just ignorant.

[Azull]

Fuckin kids these days....

[archibaldcrane]

Also, I'd like to point out that I called this shit via my sig over a year ago.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 4G using Tapatalk

[Melena]

Ahh I got unfriended by the retard I was trolling. /sadface

[Kuya]

It was a fitting end for the America's most wanted man. As President Barack Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser John Brennan told it, a cowardly Osama bin Laden used his own wife as a human shield in his final moments. Except that apparently wasn't what happened at all.



Hours later, other administration officials were clarifying Brennan's account. Turns out the woman that was killed on the compound wasn't bin Laden's wife. Bin Laden may have not even been using a human shield. And he might not have even been holding a gun

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...man_shield.php

It's to be expected. With so many people hating Osama, i doubt anyone really felt like questioning whether these details were just embellishing what actually happened. Although i don't see the point: i think that the fact that he mastermind 9/11 makes him bad enough, he doesn't need people lying about how he died to make him look bad.

[Boyiee]

I'm so happy someone already debunked that nightvision pic of osama dead. That was one of the least realistic looking gsw's to the head I've ever seen.

[Headspace]

Oye, if I see another "Obama tried to cut the military's pay" quote, i'm going to get a concussion from my head hitting the desk repeatedly.

But he did

[Melena]

Maybe it is cause i'm exhausted, but all I found was reduction in military spending, and supposedly in may 2010 he wanted to decrease a planned raise for military personnel. Nothing about decreasing current compensation though. But honestly, if your joining the military to get rich, your in the wrong career.

[Tyrath]

I'm sure most of us who have had cell phones for 10+ years have pocket dialed 911 on more than one occasion.

Never. I don't even really get how people pocket dial with phones that lock. Never happened to me.

[ZarakiKujata]

if your joining the military to get rich, your in the wrong career.

Step 1: Join Military
Step 2: Get experience/rank + retire/quit.
Step 3: Work for XC
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit.

[Kaslo]

Never. I don't even really get how people pocket dial with phones that lock. Never happened to me.

Easy you forget to lock your phone.

[Melena]

Never. I don't even really get how people pocket dial with phones that lock. Never happened to me.

I could never lock my old nokia. The star button got busted so if I locked it, it was hell to get it unlocked. And that thing had the most retardedly sensitive set of key's i've seen on a phone. Had to have a bunch of money credited to my account after I spam texted jibberish to a friend during a single 7 hour shift at work.

Step 1: Join Military
Step 2: Get experience/rank + retire/quit.
Step 3: Work for XC
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit.

Exactly, use the military to springboard into something better.

[Bregor]

Looking at all those photos, everyone was at least alive on 9/11. I cannot fathom how one can go through life and be completely unaware of such a prominent figure in one of the most hot button foreign policy issues in the united states. The dumb is astounding.

Maybe kids these days are really buying all the IRAQ/JEWS/BUSH/ETC DID 9/11 Loose Change bullshit that's out there. Or they're just ignorant. Either way, I weep for the future.

Your sig was my exact response to these retards.

Jay Onrait strikes again!

[Caiyuo]

This one's for you, Zaraki https://twitter.com/#!/Rumph/status/65514157721665537



As a bonus and because it's a rarity, Denis Leary gets a laff https://twitter.com/#!/denisleary/st...24058766323713

[Kurokikaze]

lmao so I just saw yesterday's Colbert Report and it made something really obvious.

White House Correspondence Dinner:



lmao gonna edit in trollface onto Obama. :D

[Dimmauk]

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...man_shield.php

It's to be expected. With so many people hating Osama, i doubt anyone really felt like questioning whether these details were just embellishing what actually happened. Although i don't see the point: i think that the fact that he mastermind 9/11 makes him bad enough, he doesn't need people lying about how he died to make him look bad.

Either way they shouldnt have been walking around/human shielding in a war-zone.

[ZarakiKujata]

This one's for you, Zaraki https://twitter.com/#!/Rumph/status/65514157721665537



As a bonus and because it's a rarity, Denis Leary gets a laff https://twitter.com/#!/denisleary/st...24058766323713

LOL @ Dens Leary.

And as cool as that makes Patton Oswalt, Mouzone wouldn't do it cause its against his political beliefs

[Caiyuo]

As for news, this is starting to swing in a few different directions politically beginning with the most obvious being lashing out at republicans trying to marginalize Obama's involvement and include Bush



And then there's an article Digby wrote on the new "Deather" conspiracy that is, apparently, actually a thing

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/...birth-deathers (video in link)

So I see that Fox and the talk radio wingnuts are already on the latest conspiracy theory: (video)

Evidently, it's an article of faith that the administration might have faked the death of bin Laden, ostensibly for electoral purposes. Drudge is heralding a tip that the WH is releasing the "death photos" supposedly to set the rumors to rest. As usual, it's impossible to know if Drudge is reporting a rumor or starting one ...

Wouldn't you think they'd wonder why the President would do this 18 months before the election? It's hard to see the advantage there. Of course, everyone knows they don't know nothin' 'bout winning campaigns so maybe they just got excited and went with it before they thought about the timing. But I really don't think anyone's dumb enough not to have thought of the fact that if they didn't actually kill him, he might turn up. (Boy would their faces be red then!) The government has a history of lying and there's every reason to be skeptical, but there are some conspiracy theories that just don't make a lot of sense and this is one of them.

I suppose it's inevitable that conspiracy theories would arise from this. Indeed, I would expect it coming from the Muslim extremist world, in which there's good reasonfor "the legend" to survive. But then I suppose the Muslim extremist world and the American right wing could share the same purpose. It wouldn't be the first time.

On the other hand, this sort of thing really does add fuel to the conspiracy fire and you have to wonder what the hell they are thinking:

It was a fitting end for the America's most wanted man. As President Barack Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser John Brennan told it, a cowardly Osama bin Laden used his own wife as a human shield in his final moments. Except that apparently wasn't what happened at all.

Hours later, other administration officials were clarifying Brennan's account. Turns out the woman that was killed on the compound wasn't bin Laden's wife. Bin Laden may have not even been using a human shield. And he might not have even been holding a gun.

You can't help but recall the Jessica Lynch nonsense when you hear something like this. Or Pat Tillman. There seems to be a reflexive desire to portray such events as scenes from a cowboy movie and I suppose that after all the talk about "Obama the coward" hiding behind a woman's skirts yesterday, I suppose they got their mileage out of it. But considering the inevitability of the conspiracy theories, it's really foolish not to resist the impulse to embellish. The heroes and villains are clear enough.

As for whether or not they needed to create this myth in order to justify killing an unarmed man --- well, that's just nonsense. Just watch Stewart and Colbert last night for a taste of how even the self-identified liberals see this. I don't think there's any political downside, and in fact it probably makes them look more macho in the eyes of the people. Besides, the question of whether the president could order an assassination was settled some time ago. They assert the right to keep prisoners in jail forever and kill American citizens, and nobody cares, so why in the world would there be any domestic blowback for ordering the death of the world's most wanted man?

I think it was mythologizing for the sake of mythologizing, even if it was subconscious. And it's foolish. Certainly, John Brennan should be expected to get these details right when he comes before the press. But let's not get stupid. The fact that they embellished doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[Dimmauk]

Ok so Bush was smoking them out in caves during his presidency, then stopped to attack Iraq. While the whole time all of those fuckers were found in Pakistan.

[Tyrath]

Easy you forget to lock your phone.

Weird, mine have always been flip covers or auto locked ones xD